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Abstract thoughts are conveyed with a class of language, this has not worked well in its predominance historically ( only math survived) similarly how music is communicated but not accepted as a universal language.

Happy New Year HN 6 years ago

સાલ મુબારક! Thanks to everyone on HN starting with pg and dang for providing this incredible discussion and a learning platform!

Personal thoughts for ammon, hoping @dang hides me, please hide me @dang.

Ammon,

You single handedly destroyed something you created but I can relate and feel what you might be going through ATM.

It will suck and it will leave you with scars that'll be hard to come off and stick for the foreseeable future.

Eventually, You'll come out of "it realizing this decision and reversal of an easy growth idea with hard execution and be subjected to it on target vocalists on HN"

You'll do better, never stop because of internet shit.

- Be Good

(Random individual, doesn't matter)

It is interesting to see how start-ups (twitter, forsquare and now yammer) adopting or dropping programming languages rains hailstorm on twitter, HN and blogosphere. As a serious PL designer, start-ups seem to be the prime market to target your language.

Wow, just experienced how difficult it is to find source on SF.net. Whoever made this change might be running shareware sites like download.cnet.com in his/her past life.

You probably didn't see what kind of crap SF.net was before this redesign. I think they did a good job of redesigning homepage but project pages stlll look like they are work in progress..

Three reasons I can think of, in order of time to get things done:

1. Availability, ease of use of Java based hosting provider

2. Time from writing code to live deployments

3. Lack of agile frameworks like rails, django or any other php framework (hot code reload etc.).

  prefer to rate sites by their "percentage of total Internet traffic"
I can't help but wonder how ridiculous business model like Alexa's works in reality, their source of data is not even scientifically relevant to measure total internet traffic, and yet they manage to get attention from everyone?

I almost feel that I would be laughed at if I had this start up idea and went to raise funding.

Remember that code isn't the only form of contribution,You can provide non-code help as well. Add/Update documentation of open source projects.

The only reason why RTFM fails is because documentation is outdated or non-existent.

With intermediate level this is lowest bar to achieve, and you will learn a lot just documenting the stuff as you will be forced to understand internals.

Doesn't that usually involve giving up your passion? Not every skill is worth getting, don't get me wrong though - I am apprehensive at doing things just to please some people.

Ah, another eager, frustrated dev with 5 years of experience. As much as I can relate to your experience and mindset, I gotta tell you that I'm happy to not be alone.

I have a very simple advice that I got from someone far back, do one thing that will make you feel that you accomplished something. It could be anything, an android/iphone app, a usable web app or a game (in HTML5 may be?) or just patches to your favorite open source project.

The joy of building something which people use is unprecedented. It helped me a lot and I'm pretty confident it will help you too!

Unfortunately though, FP is being sold as panacea of concurrency problems, at least in Java world.

I think that FP is much more than that, it actually helps me solve problems in a very different and elegant way. I don't know how you classify this benefit but for me it was analogous to solving a problem with recursion or loop; while both can solve problems, recursion seems to be much more intuitive and elegant way - Same for FP vs Imperative approaches.

Agree with your sentiments on enterprise douchbaggery, you are probably undervaluing what you have learned: You still have a chance to learn how to milk the enterprise when roles are reversed.