Gravity toward ads/ad-related revenue.
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info technologist & co-op mba focused on systems building for a plural economy. building open logic finance and ops tooling. student of the commons.
It is a benefit of membership, or was. It might now be discontinued and grandfathered.
Location: Denver, Colorado
Remote: Yes (preferred, not required)
Willing to relocate: No
Technologies: Low-code Platforms, Automation (Zapier, Make, etc.), Python
Résumé/CV: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cb9sDz8PAcjdkSiDeh-YyYHM...
Email: todd.y at ieee.org
I design information systems that bridge business strategy and technical execution through rapid low-code prototyping (MBA + data engineering background)—seeking product/operations roles where speed-to-value and stakeholder collaboration matter.
I have a key for https://once.com/campfire by 37Signals.com, which is an alternative to Slack, that I could offer in-kind to Hack Club - if desired.
It's open source and you own your own data.
I love the idea of a Jazz Kissa, but I wonder if this would even work in the U.S. due to intellectual property/rights restrictions.
It was probably less of a problem when you owned physical copies, but I don’t see it working (legally) with digital rights restrictions.
I worked as a barista over a decade ago and our cafe paid a not insignificant amount of special CDs that were allowed for public retail use (Muzak?)
Any future risk events related to negligence?
The public document - PLAN FOR THE ARTIST-OWNED INTERNET - zine subvert published yesterday has quite a bit of detail on the complexities and possibilities in the governance and benefit of the co-op. The team supposedly includes lawyers and economists.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1znV0Q8_jjxFTiKeT_FETTZieiXl...
I think silicon valley actually LIKES founder fiefdoms. Not really the same spirit as worker cooperatives. The cap table is the game.
You might underestimate the power games that are artist royalties agreements and the current domination by large corporates.
I assume there will be some energy within the cooperative to establish some shared means of production. It seems probable.
> PURCHASE ZINE
Is the only way to get a copy of the manifesto, really to purchase it (or join as a member)? How is someone supposed to even know whether they want to be involved in the project, if they aren't allowed to read the document first?
The ZINE is publicly available: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ra6r2zSkw7NCYNTAqP9923ValZi...
Mondragon is a great model demonstrating the greater possibilities within complementary-industry cooperative economy. Mondragon is partnership between and across industries.
I could see the regional distribution of industry across/within geography, as applied within Mondragon, mapping well to genre distribution across/within industry production tooling/technologies for Subvert.
They're being very open about the legal structuring too, with open source legal docs and agreements.
I could see the economics working similar to OpenCollective, but different governance. I know OC announced a restructuring recently, but I don't think it's a co-op model.
This sounds like enshittification itself, in its own way. Rotating hands to the highest bidder.
It's structured as a multi-stakeholder cooperative, from what I understand.
"Building an artist-owned platform is a complex challenge, but it’s one we are uniquely positioned to solve. Our growing coalition includes founders of Ampled, a project that helped pioneer the concept of cooperative platforms, as well as artists, music industry professionals, and specialists in cooperative law and platform economics. "
From a introductory blog post.
https://subvert.fm/blog/a-collectively-owned-bandcamp-succes...
More on the co-op model in the FAQ.
https://subvert.fm/docs/what-does-it-mean-to-join-the-co-op/
I'm glad to see new concepts emerge like this that challenge the governance and benefit of platforms by shareholder corporations for their own self-interested purposes.
I joined as a "Founding Supporter" of the Subvert co-op last night when I saw a post on my Twitter (X) feed.
I really hope to see more tech cooperatives in the future. The dominant paradigm of neo-fiefdom tech platforms is both tired and uninspiring.
Spend an hour in San Francisco and you'll see multiple.
This is called criminal negligence
As a founder of a SaaS company that was formed as Delaware PBC, I will say that this route does make it quite hard to follow the traditional fundraising path.
VCs are spooked by anything that’s not your run-of-the-mill C Corp. PBCs are hard to get off the ground.
There are many people in the co-op space, in the U.S. and abroad, working leverage technology to promote a more collectivist economy.
Co-op start-ups have a surprisingly low rate of failure, relative to traditional corporate structures.
I had the opportunity to talk with the Journey team a few weeks ago, and I really appreciate their product and approach.
We're going to be using Journey as an augmentation to our pitch process for investors who want tailored/detailed data than is usually available in your standard pitch deck.
Keep up the great work, Journey Team!
I went through Capsim (https://www.capsim.com/) as a part of my MBA program. It covers the simulation of R&D, Marketing, Production, and Finance - not so much Economics.
This is correct.
You should add Gitcoin.co - they fund open source projects through distribution of cryptocurrencies.
This would be an extremely valuable addition. Please consider it.
The non-profit/social sector - and we need it here. Why hire software developers when you can afford 8-10 part-time staff for the same price. Sincerely, a non-profit Technology Director.
I noticed this as well. I wonder how much of his assertive and dominant character also influenced empire-building politics. Management is responsible for setting the general tone and language for the corporate culture.
"Will emerging technologies make the state system obsolete? It’s hard to see why not."
Honest question - could the U.S. Government be considered an Abstract State Machine?
This is the first time I have heard of a "tech crisis" - and I think it's appropriate. I think we, as industry leaders, need to accept and address our faults and shadows. The first step to progress is to admit that you need help.