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Meta thought: Having recently learned of WeChat Groups in China, I'm now repeatedly noticing situations where familiar alternatives are higher friction.
What might it look like to lower the barriers
AI as salonnière. It's not enough to get lots of interesting people in a room (as at a meetup). That merely gets you to "there are so many valuable conversations latent in this room... and basically none of them will happen".
Also beyond the room. AI as ambient conversational matchmaking serendipity, weaving connections - "btw, that person in line with you also loves foul-weather sailing".
Years back, I was expecting this to rapidly become a pervasive app category. I'm unclear on why it hasn't.
In interactive lecturing (clickers) with peer instruction, there's an idea that people log in with seat location, and based on who understands or is confused about what, and having a record of past interactions, the system optimizes the fruitfulness of each peer assignment pairing "Alice, turn and discuss this question with Bob sitting to your rear left".
To build the dataset, we keep only sketches that have been recognized by the neural network in the QuickDraw game. To prevent imbalance from overly represented countries (e.g., the US), we down-sample the data by focusing on the 100 most prominent countries and capping the number of drawings per category–country pair at 10,000. [p19]
> children figure out what they want to do and the learning comes along with it; the model views adults wanting children to learn something specific as generally counterproductive
One thing AI is uniquely good at is meeting learners where they are
What if the AI wanted children to learn something specific? Able to patiently await an opportune moment. Able to blend it invisibly into other material. Able to subtly check and correct understanding.
Long term, one possibility is AI enabling a massive implicit curriculum. "[A]dults wanting children to learn" about say street crossing might be counterproductive... but funny how, at opportune times, some random stories just happen to include crossing a street, and do formative assessment, and happen to, quietly and eventually, cover and reinforce the associated learning objectives.
Take How the Piloses Evolved Skinny Noses, a children's picture book inoculation against natural selection misconceptions. It could merely be a book on a shelf. Or the AI might introduce or provide the book at an opportune moment. Or the book's approach itself might be dissolved and blended into other content.
So some story is explicitly about Fido going for a walk. But implicitly, it covers some aspect of safely crossing a street, and street lights as a communication device, and of concrete crack propagation, and tick precautions, and natural selection, and ...
Science is a richly interwoven tapestry of stories... but we basically never teach it like that. Even if such material was gathered, which pre-AI was absurdly implausibly demanding of domain expertise, it would largely be beyond the capability of an individual tutor to compellingly and adaptively deliver. But with AI?
Yes, it's easy to forget context. Especially the time component. Several 100 k children will be born tomorrow. 100+ M in the coming year. Then in six years, almost all of them will hit schools. Schools which are, pervasively, really really bad.
What can we do to help them? Better teacher training? Better new teachers? Better new teacher colleges? Consider the latencies. A decade cohort is 1+ B kids.
So refining intervention safety and efficacy is nice. Especially for development problems. Less so for an acute humanitarian disaster. For maximizing the golden hour in crisis mass-casualty triage. In some literate and numerate sense, most of this last decade's 1+ B kids did not survive our collective care.
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What happens when the low-hanging fruit is gone?
Depends on why it's gone? For example, before the shocker of Facebook buying Oculus, there was an active community of side-gig businesses selling kits around VR, large touch panels, haptics, and such. What couldn't exist, was scaling that beyond hobby kits. No VARs, no integrators or assemblers, no OEMs, no contract or bespoke manufacturing, no searching for viable niche products. Because "it's merely a kit" was the only way the US patent system allowed the stuff to exist at all as a business. The gap between what you could make, and what you're allowed to sell, is large. Even now, we can't reasonably search for those niche market fits, because such scales are beneath the notice of big patent-holding companies. So absent FRAND reform or some such ("you're required to let me use it and pay you"), no fruit for you.
CA lacking non-competes, "Stealing IP!", grew software fruit in CA. But the US has lacked the growing conditions for Shenzhen fruit. So, what happens when the low-hanging fruit is gone, from the US? Fruit is grown, and enjoyed, elsewhere.
paper: https://arxiv.org/html/2602.03315v2 , Appendix Case Studies: https://arxiv.org/html/2602.03315v2#A5 , Prompts: https://arxiv.org/html/2602.03315v2#A1
Consider "spec -> plan -> implement" as an unremarkable agentic workflow. TFA suggests that Spec be organized by cross-cutting concerns. This seems a nice thought.
Doubts in comments so far seem around expectations of an AOP-like experience. Mainly that patching aspects/Spec makes happy changes to implementation. I'm not sure TFA intended that use. Nor that current AOP implementations provide the happy. But lets explore.
With a frontier model, a greenfield ends up with, say, some spec and plan docs, and a "woven" implementation. It's reasonable to wonder how well an LLM will then un-and-re-weave code as it makes changes. And how to express join points or equivalent. And how well code review agents will detect/check intended joins continuing to be woven correctly. And whether a baseline of the LLM simply using existing AOP tooling constitutes progress.
Coming from non-frontier models, some of that seems more straightforward. Harnesses use lots of small jobs/tasks, with subagent paperwork and reviews. Historically scarce context, precious context, encouraged tightly optimizing single-task context for each job. Including derived code "views", rather than raw code. And associated LLM-coded tooling around working with not-the-raw-code.
Thus working with name/signature pseudocode outlines. And filtering code/ast. Both get you closer to having unwoven forms, and to deterministic tooling for un/re-weaving. Consider i18n clutter - just to coddle the model, one might strip it (replace it with English), let the model work, and then restore it. Which is equivalent to un/reweaving an i18n aspect. And even read-only views, like function distillations which drop or abstract some specified variables and associated code, make that "check spec against implementation" code review easier. So, even interpreting TFA broadly, it seems at least potentially possible, no?
Big picture, I'd like to get away from traditional "repo as single point in design space, laboriously nudged around", to something which preserves the multiplicity of model/run/prompt ensembles, and allows playing on design space manifolds. "This exact code has been in prod" is useful information, if underutilized, but not so useful as to be worth discarding so many new possibilities.
I once worked on a medical hackathon concept for computer-assisted population screening for cervical cancer in a developing nation. Community health workers take photos. The AI would look at the images, and make a call of "clearly negative" vs "clearly positive" vs "needs (scarce) expert review". But taking good photos is hard, so it's also "photos insufficient" and "worker needs additional mentorship on taking photos". Only by computes reducing all three costs - expert workload, exam success, and quality-control/training - might successful deployment be financially and logistically plausible for that nation.
With direct discussion, the same tendency to harmonize towards groupthink applies.
Aside from the statelessness GP mentioned, one can insert anti-conciliatory intermediation. "I saw a random claim go by, but something about it seems not quite right. What am I missing? They said: [...]." Weaponizing the bias, and orchestrating the discourse from the harness.
While diffusion from joint space is perfusion limited, some work suggests ultrasound might increase that perfusion? By vasodilation and microvascular recruitment, from heating and shear stress on endothelial cells. With bubble vibration and cavitation as one source of stress.
Also, though perhaps not rate limiting, ultrasound might be able to mess with the N2 bubble boundary diffusion rate.
Caveats: Very not my field; no clinical practice; mostly animal studies; mostly musculature and not joint; and under-validated AI.
Meta: But I so very much enjoy surfing literature with AI. Even with AI's rich collection of interesting failure modes. They serve as fun added encouragement to keep you on your toes, and keep clear on the gradients of your confidence.
Open weights/source doesn't necessarily mean running on local hardware, though.
And we've barely started to scratch the surface on helping open-weight models "be the best they can be", with cloud burst parallel sampling and prompt mutation. Looking for best probabilistic results for a prompt, and looking for best prompt variants for a task. Adaptively scaling computes at generation, not just training.
And speculatively, if agentic coding is naturally a multiplicity, what UX might enable human devs to dance with that quantum superposition? Rather than quickly collapsing to one monkey and its keyboard.
Hmm. Wouldn't a long neck permit amortizing the body lift across a lot of foliage?
Apparently there's a population of African elephants which rear up and balance to feed higher.[1]
[1] nature video starts with example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XzQ4BQe4fM short clip: https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/19bge4y... longer clip with two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpxgqu_Cfkg
Includes repo for finding pictures taken from slightly different perspectives in a photo archive, and making wigglegrams from them.
The existence of SOSUS wasn't all upside for whale data. Startup goes to patent a hydrophone improvement for marine research. Is told it's already secretly patented, and being classified, they can't make them - thank you for playing, good bye.
Another flatworms-are-fun story: If you irradiate a flatworm using a nuclear reactor, to kill off its stem-cell equivalents, it sort of "rots" as other cells eventually die and aren't being replaced. If after zap, you insert donor stems, its life can instead proceed normally, and the entire body is eventually refreshed. So ship of Theseus like, you have an individual flatworm, swimming through its life, which ends up being genetically unrelated to its earlier self.
Neat. Years ago I did a spike with order-of-magnitude measure sliders. So mosquito mass, with imaginary handcrank force, quickly goes relativistic. And low order 10 kg gives a picture of cat, with high order 100 bpm heart rate beeping (metabolic rate scaling with mass - whale hearts are massive and slooooow). Now with AI, perhaps one might flesh out such a space, with measures and landmarks and media and links, and survive the nightmare barrier of copyright permissions, with a more plausible level of effort. It might be fun to be able to surf an oom measure space, to develop a feel for measures and reasonable quantities.
“atmosphere barn megaparsecs"
So say a pressure vessel, the length of a galactic cluster, with subatomic cross-section... hmm, ok, an exercise in engineering left for the reader. It seems carbon nanotubes, 1 nm^2 (1e10 barns), can do order 10 GPa, plugged with ice.
Fwiw, I'll share some surfing:
Nice article on an earlier demo: https://newatlas.com/energy/quaise-energy-millimeter-wave-dr... ; linked from this (nice but lots lots of ads): https://newatlas.com/energy/quaise-energy-millimeter-wave-dr... .
Company https://www.quaise.com/ on YT https://www.youtube.com/@quaise
MS thesis (2024; browsable) on the vitrified wall, for that and its intro: https://www.proquest.com/openview/624989df3cdd8055a6cee9affc...
Search for papers "Millimeter Wave Drilling for Deep Geothermal Energy Production" https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C33&q=Mil...
rerunning [...] but differently framed or worded input, and seeing how much they diverged
I'm surprised how little attention this is getting in today's comments. Open-weights means being able to afford multiple runs, space sampling, critique and synthesis.
Last night, sketching some intro biology content emphasizing cross-cutting concerns, Qwen would get sucked into the Next Generation Science Standards attractor. But nudge it by adding just one similar phrase of Chinese, and most runs ran free (outputting English but for headers with parenthesized Chinese). The multi-lingual LLM "no, not *that* region of latent space".
Has anyone seen a good set of prompts for that disagreement? For the "skeptical eyebrow-raise" or "confused/doubtful head tilt" aspect of rubber ducks?
Agentic uses adversarial expert, steel-man opponent, risk-mitigation and failure-mode analysis. But what about almost brainstorming, but with thought-provoking nudge questions? Or on the other hand, arm-waving fight-club style discussion? Or... It's a big design space. I used to go to lots of research talks at MIT, in assorted departments. The post-talk Q&A question cultures varied a lot. Like encompassing both "leaves the speaker in tears", and "nudge so subtle, you won't quickly get it if you've not already spotted the fatal flaw in the work".
So aside from dialing down the "transformative insight!" silliness, there seems a rich multi-agent multi-persona space to explore.
That's "passive daytime radiative cooling" for the curious. Supporting sweat, durability, non-toxic, existing textile tech, etc, gets hard. Or perhaps, like radiator-free ships in The Expanse, Dune just didn't want to show Fremen looking like butterflies.
I like the "service animal" analogy. But it's not that easy to escape the ethical fork/tradeoff, as the breeding of universal companions would be far better resourced than that of service animals. Then it's not "only some people are allowed to have cell phones", it's more "we'll ban cell phones and if someone really really has needs, we'll let them have a milk-carton brick of a radio telephone", with an implicit "and that will be good enough for them".
I've long since given up on seeing thoughtful policy space discussion, here or anywhere, but I see drdaeman's 'I need assistance in recognizing faces' being downvoted here today, so briefly...
Europe and the US have had different legal perspectives on public photography, and each has had both costs and benefits. Perhaps those contrasts could help inform discussion.
As with any tech in its infancy, thought experiments might illuminate options. I suspect few here would object to a camera feeding only a chip which outputs only hand pose for gestural UI. What if that chip output a facial UID, for help with 'hey, that's someone I know', and that UID was transient and never left the glasses? What if that UID was sent to Meta for arbitrary monitization? If the last two drew different answers, then perhaps the downvoted suggestion to regulate the use, not the camera, might deserve discussion.
Notable elephants in the room include: Trust - with societal lying normalized, and misrepresentation pervasive in policy discourse, it's not unreasonable to suggest that we're societally incapable of regulating use, so broad prohibitions are the only policy tool available. Imperial conservative stagnation - as with drone's "yes it could be an economically transformative technology, and a militarily critical industry, but at every stage of its exploration, it must be perfectly safe(tm)!" (the emph bit heard here on HN) - turning your back on modernization and reform has consequences when you have rival states. Privilege - having done dementia caregiving, there are lots of people whose lives would be profoundly improved by having ride-along see-what-they-see AI companions - "Did I have dinner? Yes, 10 minutes ago. You had X. Maybe you'd like a snack of Y to get more protein?" - even a valid claim of "this tech would hurt me" deserves a pause for "but how might it help others?".
I wish we had some social tech to facilitate doing better at this kind of discussion.
Years ago I did an exploratory UX spike, an attempt to make history more tangible, by giving each day a dot (so a couple of centuries fit on a screen), with the dots providing, among other things, scans of that day's newspapers and magazines. Nice for browsing/surfing history. Part of not pursuing it further, was newspapers - and historically there were many many more newspapers per region, let alone per person - newspapers were already mostly paywalled, and becoming less available with time. Even libraries which did their own scanning of archived local papers, would grow tired of support, and turn them over for paywalling. My understanding was there was little money in it, but all it takes is enough to scatter moats everywhere, to make a terrain inaccessible to broad access.
They stopped selling them
Ouch. Thanks for the catch.
On ebay just now, there's someone claiming they have "more than 10 available".
To the point of making it harder to find a job
Fwiw... (1) Lenovo sells compact keyboards with trackpoint. USB and bluetooth. There are mouse buttons below Space, but it cuts off there, with no pad. I once taped a kludgy bare usb pad to one, which was ok, but the extra couple of cm separation was annoying. I considered grinding out some of the case, but don't recall if that turned out plausible. (2) Lenovo has tablets with detachable keyboards, with both trackpoint and touchpad. People have DIYed such (from an old X1) into a USB kbd - the pogo pins did USB. Lenovo currently sells a replacement kbd for the X12, but I don't know if its similarly DIYable. (3) Assorted other manufacturers make, or have made, kbds with devices resembling touchpoint, more or less. (4) Some note ancient Lenovo IBM SK-8840 PS/2 Wired Keyboard With TrackPoint still show up on ebay, fwiw.
"I read books [...] I've read a couple of books a week for [...] 50 [years]"[1] - Jim Keller (CPU designer) with Lex Fridman.