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Yeah thank you for your comment -- there are tons of people out there who need that kind of help, I have known some of them as well (maybe not as closely as in your profession!) and the us mental health system is not adequate

My point wasn't articulated well in my first comment. I am worried more about painting homeless people with such a broad stroke. Getting a roof over someone's head is entirely different from getting them mental health services -- we need to fix both to actually solve the problem. And the specific language around "ruiners" in the post really struck a nerve with me... I think that everyone is deserving of some degree of help and shouldn't be thrown in prison like OP suggested.

That said, I don't appreciate the personal attack. While I did find reading about your experience helpful and appreciate you sharing, I think your comment at the end is part of what makes the internet bad. Look to some of the other comments critical of my post for some better examples.

You know, you make an interesting point. I think you're referring to the same thing that the author is referring to.

On the left side of the political spectrum, It's not a single phenomena though, I think you can break it down into two camps on the left: 1. older-school globalist liberals. Probably older, supported the Clintons, ect. These people seem to have traditionally looked down on the right as backward, uneducated "basket of deplorables" or whatever. Plays into the ivory tower liberal stereotype. 2. New-school farther left. Probably younger, fans of AOC et al. They'd also be likely to look down their noses, but in more of a moral superiority perspective.

I think the condescension of #1 goes back decades and has already borne its fruit in (at least to a degree) the political situation we find ourselves in today. I worry that group # 2 hasn't learned those lessons and is proving that they'll just repeat the same mistakes. Unless they self-destruct arguing about Israel, which totally mystifies me.

That said... so much of what comes out of the right is complete and utter bullshit. From the massive propaganda machine that is fox, to infowars, to tiny hyper-racist subreddits — there's a lot of noise to separate from the signal that might be a valid, reasonable conservative argument.

With that in mind, sometimes I wonder if we don't need a bit more contempt.

Maybe if the type of outright hate speech the mainstream right seems to support was not acceptable, that would open the floor for some actual conversation.

To summarize: I wish that democrats and the left weren't been so quick to dismiss legitimate concerns from everyone outside of NYC and SF (hyperbolic, I know). But it's right wing (and especially religiously-motivated) politics that have completely skewered our politics and media.

Saying "fuck that and fuck you" to anyone who supports that system is a reasonable reaction, in my opinion.

But where does that leave us? I don't know.

ideas:

1. Create content that can't be scraped. I'm not sure exactly what your "content" is in this case, but images can be watermarked, text can be given lots of references to your own brand and service, ect.

2. Submit legal requests to google to remove the content. Enough violations can get their domain blacklisted. I've done this successfully in the past for competitors using my trademark without permission to get it removed from Google. Ads. https://support.google.com/legal/answer/3110420

3. Talk to the hosting provider, if applicable. If someone is repeatedly breaking copyright law using their platform, they may have some incentive to stop providing hosting.

If anyone else here on HN is a fan of talking about what "makes sense" in the context of elder scrolls, I'm a big fan of /r/TESlore on reddit. Everything from explanations like the above, to how specific enemy groups became the way they were (e.g. the falmer in Skyrim), to theories of the economics underlying the games.

I think that the barrier to entry to accepting bitcoin or cryto payments in general directly can be fairly high, depending on the ecosystem. It's been intimidating to me.

I'd love to see a collection of crypto tutorials to get started accepting payments and buying coins in any ecosystem.

Maybe another commenter has a good source?

I think they all seem to have a pretty scientific explanation. Don't we see research on meditation pop up here almost every other week?

I guess I'm pretty firmly in the atheist-materialist camp here. If you don't mind me asking, what happened to you to convince you otherwise?

Hey Zeroday,

I agree with point 5 and 4, it's a bit of a bandwagon.

However the article doesn't contain the quote you mentioned in point 3. Also, the only reported death due to Theranos that I can find is the sad death of the Chief Science Officer who killed himself.

I disagree with the premise that she should be fired. Reporters pitch stories all the time with specific premises... I'm trying to imagine taking what she wrote and putting into any kind of coherent narrative. It's not the kind of thing that would have made an impact, I don't think.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me either. I think it sounds like the complaint is actually that they failed to build out features that enabled easier moderation and better verification (mentioned a paragraph later).

My understanding is that Twitter moved away from Ruby/Rails back in 2010-2012 anyway, making the comparison more confusing.

Wow. Can someone pull a Hacker News and explain to me why I'm allowed to be super pessimistic about this result? I want to believe.

For issue (1), the articles I've seen suggest that the vast majority of people just don't do this. Certainly some do, but I don't see why a couple bad actors invalidate a scheme which can work for most of the population.

I don't have an authoritative source on the above claims, but here's a 538 article which talks about the issue a bit. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-welfare-dollars-do...

"[reduction in cash assistance] has happened despite a burgeoning economics literature suggesting that direct cash transfers are in many cases the most efficient tool to fight poverty."

Issue (2) seems less cut-and-dry to me.

Learn to sell 9 years ago

Don't read the Dale Carnegie book, read "SPIN Selling" by Neil Rackham and the book "Getting to NO" <- best book on negotiation I've ever read.

Yeah, and the top level domain redirects to google.com the DNS registrar is the same one the Google uses, and WHOIS says the owner is Google.

I guess it's just a quiet launch of a Google service, probably beta-ing it with the YC crowd.

I agree. It is an offensive comparison, and being offended is a personal view.

Misunderstanding what the author wrote is not a personal view or opinion, it's just ignoring the facts. Ironically, that "facts as a personal view" argument was heavily used by both candidates in the 2017 election which you have decried.

That is what I was addressing with my previous comments. Sorry if you thought I was challenging your personal/political/emotional views in some way. I think you are correct, you're just using poor argumentation.

Yeah, it sounds like we're talking past eachother a bit then. I agree that you can't compare the four figures. That is not what the author is attempting to do, however.

The argument isn't that IF there are similarities between political rhetoric now and in 1800 THEN you may make a comparison between historical figures. It's that IF there are similarities between political rhetoric now and in 1800 THEN similar political problems may have existed in the year 1800 that we are facing today. The author is highlighting his premise, not making a character comparison.

It sounds like you're making the mistake of looking at the 1800 election through our modern lens. At the time, there was no promise that the U.S. would succeed to the degree it has today. The "founding fathers" were not deified quite to the degree we hold them in our culture (assuming you're in the US).

As such, the subtitle isn't a literally calling Jefferson and Adams a madman and a crook. If that was the case, then yes I agree it would be distasteful and a difficult argument. Of course there are major differences. It's pointing out that someone at the turn of that century might have experienced something similar to what we saw this past year and that maybe we could learn something from knowing that.