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Unless I'm mistaken doesn't Diigo.com do all of these with a free account even?

I think it only worked this well now because it wasn't done before.

Had it been done in an earlier manner where mobile phones haven't entered the SmartPhone/Social Media craze - everyone would have tuned out faster.

Dodging the Adblock crowd and piggybacking on the Post-Iphone hipster crowd is the hallmark of great timing if you ask me.

This is true too but this is why I am asking this question. Maybe someone has found a way around this.

As much as I agree that economic freedom is important, it's not like in hindsight richer countries were able to shrug off corporations and the little guy managed to beat the big guy.

If anything it was merely the allowance afforded by being a richer country and the competitive culture backed by a competitive and often (at the time) unique society/political education movement that created the sort of economic illusion of being free which allowed for the little guys to rise/want to rise.

I am merely stereotyping though and even in my attempts at stereotyping I could be wrong but considering the current state of the world (or mainly America), it just appears to be the correct assumption.

Thanks for further clarifying. Unfortunately I feel these are very isolation-friendly types of concepts and indeed we have a growing culture of this but this tends to create "isolated" businesses not the type of culture that would need a tech hub. (It is also high-risk in this country)

Maybe I am mistaken since I haven't personally participated in a start-up but the appeal just often leads to our major businesses eating up the smaller businesses. If there are small businesses that do indeed grow from this without being bought, it becomes such a brand-centric concept that promotes copycats rather than idea inventors.

I hope I am able to convey myself clearly. It's not that I disagree with your idea, it's just that I feel we already have this already. It certainly could be faster or more aggressive but nothing that would develop an idea culture. Even in the money culture - I fear it would end up morphing too much like an online MLM type of educational/culture development - a concept who's offline variety is already very popular among the poor and even middle classes in this country.

Yeah, I've seen and read leadership lessons from the dancing guy although I haven't seen the Ted talk you are referring to. (Do you have a link?)

Thanks for clarifying what you mean by socially contextual mode of analysis. I think it's very possible in this country but it needs some stability which it will not get from the government soon. That's really where most of the money issue stems from.

I don't know. Normally I agree but it gives this slideshow a certain charm in this case. Probably because it told more of a story than a slideshow.

Other than near the end, I thought it actually did a good job of emphasizing it's point. It just lacked that big revelatory surprise at the end to give it that bang.

Like the previous user requested, I would also like to know more about Bangalore.

No please continue digressing mrpsbrk. I was actually hoping you would expand more on "maybe we wouldn't really like it".

I do understand the context of your question but it's kind of a weird thing for me to answer. For you see, I don't have an "official" employed job currently and if I were to be given a choice of what to have - I would certainly choose one that is more of a freelance type of job than a static monthly salary type of task.

In that sense, it really feels weird trying to justify my "non-existant job" as a desire for better pay and one based on a socially contextual mode of analysis.

Although here I may be misunderstanding you too. What exactly is a socially contextual mode of analysis in a country who's majority core socially contextual mode of analysis as far as job goes is to lift themselves up from poverty and just have a stable life they can live on? Even if we would set aside start-ups and include those who would say analyze this with goals not relating to better pay, what is their incentive to not merely jump ship? ...and if they were to not jump ship, would they have goals to change what sounds impossible and make it not only possible but possible towards a more capitalistic friendly future and entrepreneurial minded culture or...be more of the same?

To your statement (and I do not disagree with your point mind you), I am always reminded by a section of Hamming's You and Your Research article:

"When your vision of what you want to do is what you can do single-handedly, then you should pursue it. The day your vision, what you think needs to be done, is bigger than what you can do single-handedly, then you have to move toward management."

Not that I'm saying mine is bound to have a happy ending like the person which Hamming is retelling but in a world where the likes of Woz or Leonardo are spearheading concepts to new heights, the mediocre may be the ones left to run most of the asylum and the weak (to which I include myself as being part of since I haven't succeeded in any area where I was very good) must decide how and where they would like to pursue themselves to failure. Although just to clarify, I cannot say my pursuit is necessarily Philippine Silicon Valley per se. It's just a question that I modified from my AskReddit topic.

Could you set an example or parameter for what constitutes as low risk, medium-based business on the web?

Aside from local clones, I'm unable to think of anything that fits that bill. Especially if we're talking medium-return businesses internationally the likes which would be considered high-return in this country.

There's things like setting up your own online shops but that kind of setting is not conducive to forming a hub. Then there's the opposite spectrum of a cheap hub, places that as you describe makes it easy for any type of small businesses to form but it's certainly not the type of setting that could develop a culture of start-up support or hacker heartland.

Thanks. Good luck on your side, I'm just hoping on my side too. It all seems so far away but someone has to try and find answers to the question eventually.

From what little I know, Tezuka did want to clone Disney in a sense. Prior to this there were comics before that resembled gag manga and Tezuka, finding difficulty in amassing resources to clone a Disney movie, tried to convert Disney unto paper with the current popular drawing style of the time.

Where he became a pioneer was in the area where he saw more of Disney than the art style. This combined with other old movies he knew of made him want to "clone cinema unto paper". Thus began both the success of manga and anime. Manga in the sense of Tezuka's pioneering cinema-like over comic-style like of pacing (at the time) and Anime due to the combined work ethic plus consistent high quality works he made which made it impossible for producers to resist offering an "Anime" version of his works. (Unfortunately or fortunately, this was also what leads to the unfair and unequal salary of many manga artists today. In those early days, the manga creator literally gave away their works to allow for an animated version setting aside certain industry celebrities and the model continues up till today except nowadays it works closer to a start-up where the professional manga artist is supplied food and rooms and materials to polish their work and then having an anime of your work is more of an honor than a hand-out)

Anyways, if you don't mind, how do you envision a solid base to be? Even today it seems Silicon Valley isn't quite as solid as it is and there are talks of talent shortage and high costs of living - I'm curious what a solid base really is. Over here, from my understanding, programmers don't so much work together as they end up interning for whichever company is willing to accept them as on the job trainees. In the rare chance that there is a small group of programmers working together, they are almost immediately formed through university projects otherwise they become unknown freelancers working with their former classmates or past acquaintances.

I think the same holds true for Silicon Valley only guys like Zuckerberg comes from already elite schools and most people are dreamers and the ones that aren't but are overly skilled unless I'm mistaken get acquired by Google or Facebook and lured by certain luxuries. On our end, and again I could be mistaken, I don't think we even have a YCombinator type of start-up training and almost everyone is on the follower mindset with regards to web services because not only is the money hard to support your self with but the Philippines isn't as internet surfing as other countries. (If you were to take a web surfing pie, I would assume majority of the users are using Facebook or playing MMORPG games. I could be highly mistaken since I don't have access to professional analytics programs but lurking in net cafes these are what I spot)

There is probably a higher hierarchy of elite level programmers and designers though but not only am I hard pressed to imagine them not already working or moving elsewhere in another country but I myself don't have investor level cash to satisfy them.

Thank you very much for this!

I agree and I don't think they can be blamed. It's mostly the economy and the corruption. Easier to jump ship than to repair a sinking ship too damaged to be repaired.

I don't think the analogy is quite correct though. At least based only on the movie impressions of ghettos I've seen, I feel it's sort of an interesting ironic antonym of cultural personalities.

If many of the people in your ghetto had the same cultural identity as many of our poor people over here, you'd see a more unified poverty like the one I imagine exists in the Filipino groups in San Francisco. (I haven't been outside of my country except for HK and so I'm only guessing.)

In reverse, if we have more of a ghetto culture, it won't necessarily mean we will lift up ourselves better but certainly we'd be a lot more angrier and violent at the poverty level that in ways may further hurt our very unstable lifestyle but will be better breeding grounds for the type of entrepreneurs that mimic the US lifestyle.

Thanks. I haven't studied much about the history of Japanese Anime but I did some on Japanese manga and I was under the impression, Anime was merely a piggyback on Tezuka's dream of having a movie version of his mangas which coupled by the success of his pioneering designs and cheap printing allowed for the type of growth that would help Anime flourish.

Unfortunately for us here, this isn't quite the case from my little observation of our culture. Even start-ups work on a corporate mindset. Just a few days ago, I spotted someone selling a DVD of Ubuntu for higher than the average price of pirated DVDs. This doesn't even take into account the difficulty of establishing meet-ups here.

I apologize if these just sound like excuses. I'm just trying to put the problem into context from my perspective in case this allows for a better explanation of what type of non-government development that can be done to turn this concept into a reality.

Thanks. What do you mean by attracting a different class of entrepreneurs?

Could you also clarify how a wage level which allow for multiple staff with minimal investment/income would work?

This is a great article but I do wonder if it isn't merely trying to produce more wantrepreneurs (a term I learned while lurking on HN)

I think almost everyone would feel enlightened by the title but the way the article is written, it seems it's tailored to inspire those who cannot build but would want to dream rather than those who can build but feel like the implementation of a concept is obvious enough and requires no extra polishing.

I think this is a good subject but unfortunately I think there's probably going to be less substance in the rebuttal side.

I'm not pro-piracy but I think at the heart of piracy is the moral after-effect of corporations being able to produce too much demand.

It's like society's evolution towards more and more corporations creating apathetic but constantly product feeding consumers. At some point the adaptation process leans towards these individuals favoring a form of acquiring anything at a cheaper (preferably) free price because the opposite side of the spectrum - that of being thrifty, pragmatic, conservative...loses it's efficiency over time regardless if many still view themselves as conservative buyers.

One may make the counter-argument that this is over-thinking an age old practice of software piracy but in my honest opinion there's a huge difference between underground software "crack" sharing from wholesale piracy to mass consumer p2p usage.

Nonetheless just to support your topic:

Justification: Piracy helps promote businesses via consumer awareness

Rebuttal: Piracy helps promote BIG businesses. If piracy supporting people were truly for helping businesses, they would be a lot more intelligent in seeding certain products.

Instead the most seeded ones are often times also those that are mainstream. This doesn't mean the technology hasn't allowed for those who would seed or allow for a less costlier promotion of an item but... until piracy develops a seeder mentality rather than a leeching one, this justification won't ever reach reality. (and by seeder mentality, I don't mean just those who have the capability to possess seedboxes or seed 1:1 - I mean we have to have a conscious identity as consumers even if we're acquiring something that is cash free because it's not votefree. There are certain books or products that could help alleviate third world countries and then there are products that are merely entertainment junkfoods)