magicjosh

Agree, better to post this on a crypto platform. People who work in the crypto space seem to find more value in communities outside HN.

I'm not working in the crypto space but know others who are.

Like any quickly developing industry, crypto is changing quickly. That means you can get in on the cutting edge, and stay with it as it becomes mainstream.

The Ethfinance Daily thread on reddit is worth joining and reading daily: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/

You can also hop on Warpcast, a crypto focused community with a Twitter-like interface.

I recommend diving in with some new project that catches your attention and understand whatever you can. Discord participation is also useful for many projects.

Anyone experimented with Sign in With Ethereum?

Wallet based login and account management onchain.

A related question is why did they wait to cancel it until today?

Announcing end-to-end encryption the same day suggests this program was blocking end-to-end encryption from moving forward, too.

Not scanning for CSAM on your own servers isn't a realistic expectation.

What makes it not a realistic expectation? According to other references, the USA cannot compel companies to run scans on their own customers.

Yes! The Creating Sustainable American Mployment (CSAM) Act will create thousands of new jobs too.

Do you have a source for the "not constitutional" bit? I referenced it in a post below and was looking for a source.

" If Apple has a legal obligation to ensure that iCloud does not store CSAM/etc"

My understanding is in the USA companies like Apple cannot be legally obligated to ensure that iCloud does not store CSAM. Something about the US Constitution, but I can't remember what. Apple is legally obligated to report CSAM if they come across it themselves though.

This appears to be the case in Europe as well. But may not always be that way. The EU appears to be working on legislation that can compel cloud providers to scan for CSAM: https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/11/apples-csam-troubles-may-be-b...

Welcome sources on this from others. Last time I dug into this was a year ago.

Fixed:

Your apartment complex decides they don’t want to be party to anything illegal. Just in case, they set up a police precinct in the lobby. They set up hidden cameras in the lobby, the hallway leading to your apartment, and the balcony of your apartment. "All public spaces of course" the crowd consents. And if their AI model detects anything suspicious, they send the video to the detective. Because you aren’t doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about, right?

you can also take the opposite meaning from this signal. I haven't posted in 75 days, but a thread about ebay screwing people over was enough to get me to login.

I was permabanned from eBay. My only thought was I linked to the vendor website, maybe HTML links are nonos or something.

Exactly, can you imagine how frustrating that would be?

"Proof of Humanity" is an interesting blockchain based project that aims to solve some of this. Doesn't prove you're not a scammer though.

As a long time user, it sounds like you would be greatly impacted by such a ban. Watch out! If you at all depend on eBay for your livelyhood, have a backup plan or parallel path. eBay is shit.

I've also been permabanned from eBay. Buyer for 10+ years, occasional seller. Went to sell something alongside lots of listings for the same thing. Permabanned my account and my parent's accounts as I had logged in from their house previously. No recourse. "Banned without appeal" they called it. "Because of the nature of the ban we cannot tell you anything about it". Many frustrating calls.

Years later, my only thesis is it was due to having HTML in my product description, I linked to the vendor website. Maybe that's against the rules or something.

This person's experience seems to be validated by others. I also have had a similar experience.

Sounds like you have more to lose if you were banned from eBay. Watch out!

Anti-crypto HN is real!

I still have not found the HN-like community that gets cryptocurrencies. Maybe it's just being created today. People say Twitter but it's still pretty meme oriented. /r/ethfinance is ok but not enough content. Zero Knowledge podcast is solid but podcasts are one way communication. And the forums for cryotocurrency developers are beyond my level of tech knowledge.

I wonder if at some point anthropologists will even study "tech's rejection of crypto" as a rift that became something more.

"The ongoing growth in decentralized financial ecosystems, peer-to-peer payment activity and obscured blockchain ledgers presents additional risks to the American people and our foreign partners."

Wow, the Secret Service started up their own cryptocurrency team!

ooo what about some kind of zero knowledge proof that proves citizenship but nothing else.

Seems like a valid next step, hold leaky honeypots accountable. Anyone holding onto user data these days should be nervous.

At what point do platforms like GiveSendGo anonymize payments for real? (realize this is potentially a leading question about cryptocurrency mixers, but maybe there's a way to implement this with regular currencies)

I'm all for traceability, but I can't see donating anything through GiveSendGo if all my data is going to be leaked. Same with Kickstarter. They're just creating a honeypot/target for hackers.

Agreed, perhaps I'm conflating "compelling" with "good for society"..

Here's what Tim O'Reilly had to say about web3: "We won't know what Web3 is until after the current bubble pops — because we're in the middle of a bubble, just like the dot-com bubble, where there's all kinds of crazy startups getting outrageous valuations, with less to show for it."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/web3-cryptocurrency-nft-tim-ore...

Cryptocurrencies are compelling enough for governments to try to lock them down: https://twitter.com/nunchuk_io/status/1494885897577271299

"cheap, mind-bogglingly lucrative marketing monstrosity, an advertising badlands of spam, banner ads and pop-ups."

This article is unspecific in its accusations and metaphors. Wouldn't recommend wasting your time with it. Why was it written, why was it posted here. There's nothing in the article to really discuss and so this thread is just gonna be boring.

Here's a repository of well written web3 critiques: https://github.com/rufuspollock/awesome-crypto-critique

Disclosure: own crypto

Here's Steve Jobs' speeding ticket: https://www.judyrecords.com/record/vde11sdzw25ac

any server application needs compute

I'm curious about this as well so will be learning more about dapps (decentralized apps). Starting here

https://blog.chronobank.io/what-is-a-decentralised-applicati...

https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/dapps

For messaging dapps, check out the new Blockscan chat by the creators of Etherscan : https://decrypt.co/91226/etherscan-creators-launch-ethereum-... (note: NOT very decentralized yet)

This is past my level of expertise, but you could map out what those clock cycles of a mail server are going towards. For example, serving files, like we talked about, can happen on IPFS. No compute needed there beyond what IPFS already does.

High level, Ethereum is intended as "computer", and IPFS is intended as "storage". They complement eachother well.

Beyond that, it depends on what you mean by "computations".

Our example is setting up decentralized email. What computation is needed to send and receive email?

1. You may mean the computation needed to encrypt and decrypt the emails. That would happen on your computer locally.

2. You may mean the computation to send and receive emails. I'm not sure how/where this would happen in this example. It might be on the blockchain somehow.

Well said. Exposes their own bad habits and understandings. Wonder if there are nonprofits that offer training for journalists on this stuff.