joe200

You are right: you didn't refuse, you are cheating (especially people who don't understand nuances)

You provided a content of a deb package that is intentionally malicious. It is like a saying that car from specific car manufacturer is dangerous for people. When asked "why" your answer is: "Because you can suddenly turn the car and hit people waiting at a bus station".

BTW, I hope you already know that in i.e. Red Hat you don't need rpm package to brick your system. It's much, much easier.

You are a troll.

I asked you to be very specific. And you refused. You are criticizing "apt" for "specific architectural issues" but it is still very, very vague. Once again - be specific please. Can you? What exactly are the "specific architectural issues" ?

If you worked for a politician, you would look like hired by PR agency to throw a sh..t on someone else. I believe (and hope) you are not ?

Sounds similar to my experience with other systems (like Red Hat). Amazing - you've just realised that IT systems don't always work. Welcome to IT world !

What do you mean by "poison" ? Be specific. Very specific.

Why do you think Debian for servers only ? Did you use Debian SID or Testing as a desktop ?

I have used in my life many different Linux distributions: Slackware, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Debian (professionally or privately). My private choice is the only one not driven by marketing: Debian.

You have three main Debian releases:

  SID (if you need to be as close as possible to upstream versions)

  Testing (the same as above but a few days after SID)

  Stable (you sacrifice the latest software versions for insane stability)

And please don't mix Debian and Ubuntu.

Canonical is commercial company driven by profit (and CEO's bonus).

Debian is driven by community and (mostly) engineers.

The same question applies to any other distribution (Fedora, Arch, etc): who tests them ?

Canonical doesn't have capacity to change over 60000 packages prepared by Debian community.

You are talking about Debian stable which is released approximately once in 2 years. People who want to have more (most ?) recent software on Debian should go for Debian Testing. Or Debian Sid, which gets upstream updates almost instantly but requires more Linux knowledge in case something gets broken.

Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid which is considered as the least stable release in Debian community.

The "testing" name is one of the worst decision of Debian community IMHO. It misleads people.

This is how the flow happens: [upstream] -> [Debian Sid] -> [Debian Testing] -> [Debian stable]

The testing happens in Debian Sid.

It looks like you have never used Debian testing (or used it 10 years ago ?). The testing phase is in Debian Sid and _not_ in Debian testing.

Ubuntu is optimised for corporations, as this is the main source of income for Canonical. Try Debian _testing_.

Even better is Debian testing :-)

Because you used Debian stable (which is mostly for servers). Try Debian Testing. And don't get fooled by its name "testing" - it is because Debian community reserved "stable" for Debian stable. Debian testing is also stable :-)

You are comparing Fedora with Debian stable. Everyone who wants to have Debian stability (and ecosystem) with the most new upstream software should go for Debian Testing (and don't be fooled by the name "testing" !). Debian Stable is for servers, Debian Testing is for desktops. Just try Debian Testing (and I used Slack, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Debian)

How do you organise them across many windows ? I found it difficult to categorize them by topic (i.e. one window with topic X, another window by topic Y and so on)

How do you know that Xi is not criminal ? His decisions "affected" (read: killed or thrown in jail) thousands or tens of thousands people (more ?).

I was referring to "how could you be sure that American made LLMs are not altered in a way to maximize US interests at the costs of everyone else's."

But your answer intelligently redirecs focus to different topic. Is it on purpose ?

The danger with TikTok is that some already used it to influence elections (recently in Romania) so it is proven to be working.

You cannot. But in US you have elections every 4 years wheres in Russia or China both Putin and Xi are "elected" for their lifetime. Does it tell you anything ?

You can also visit The Enigma Cipher Centre in Poznan/Poland [0]

It is an exhibition about cracking Enigma by the polish mathematicians: M. Rejewski, H. Zygalski and J. Różycki who then, at the begin of the Second World War, handed it over to the Allies.

[0] https://csenigma.pl/en/

What about banking apps ? Do they work correctly ? Do they complain that you don't have genuine phone ?

This ^^^

What a nonsense ! I bet you have no or little idea about Debian family. Debian stable is rock solid but doesn't have the most up-to-date software. Debian Sid and Testing both have very up-to-date software. It is your choice and you decide what you want.

Use Debian Testing. Packages up-to-date. Compare the latest Ubuntu and Debian Testing:

https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?firstlist=debian&secondlis...

And I repeat what I said before: don't be fooled by the name of the release - "Testing". The name "Testing" exists due to an orthodox approach of Debian community that only the Debian stable can use "stable".

So to describe it precisly: Debian Testing is a rolling release for majority of time. When the Stable is going to be released, Testing gets frozen for a while. But then it becomes the rolling release again. Debian stable gets released once in ~2 years. So once in ~2 years Debian testing is not a rolling release.

Testing is a rolling release for most of the time. As well as Sid is:

Sid [rolling] -> Testing [rolling] -> Stable [point release]

@giancarlostoro

This is the solution. Use the following web page to compare packages versions from Debian Testing and Fedora 40: https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?firstlist=debian&secondlis...