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Yes we've thought about them a fair bit.

We believe that in most ETFs right now the transaction costs are largely factored into either the expense ratio or the ETF bid-ask spread, exactly due to the redemption mechanism you discussed. See section titled Spread of the Underlying Securities in an ETF Basket in the following PDF and the following quote:

"If a market maker has to obtain a portion of the ETF constituents on the secondary market to then deliver into the fund as part of the basket process, the cost of acquiring those names should be reflected in the ETFs bid/ask spread — as costs are traditionally passed through to the end customer."

https://www.ssga.com/library-content/pdfs/etf/au/spdr-au-etf...

Also we take estimated spread costs into account when running our portfolio optimization. A higher bid-ask spread as measured by past 1 month NBBO p50 spread generally gets penalized in our portfolio optimization all else being equal, although this depends slightly on what optimization setting you've chosen on Double.

You are correct the in-kind creation/redemption pushes any taxable gains/losses to the trading of the ETF by the holder, not the ETF itself.

But there are some benefits to doing what you refer to as a "custom one-off fund". Namely we can Tax Loss Harvest any losses and realize those to offset gains we realize in the name of rebalancing. The industry generally calls this direct indexing and wealth clients with $1M and above portfolios have been doing it for years.

We also provide the option of entering a "Buy & Hold" optimization for strategies, which would not rebalance your winners into losers and realizing any gains or losses, but your portfolio will drift over time if you choose this.

Other than fees, we are also quite a bit more customizable than most other options you mentioned. We let you do things like rebalance between positions and pick your optimization type, and backtest a screened portfolio. More customizable than most robo-advisors out there and more powerful than brokerages like M1.

If Double goes out of business, your assets are safe and held in your name at Apex Clearing. They have processes in place for these scenarios to help you access and transfer those assets.

SIPC protection covers against a brokerage firm failing, which in our case is Apex Clearing. We are not currently a brokerage so SIPC would not apply if Double goes bankrupt.

Thanks - worked hard on the backtester despite it not being front and center product wise.

We currently have 50+ strategies. About 30 of these replicate popular ETFs. MTUM is one of them (https://double.finance/p/explore/124). Here are our 4 factor focused portfolios (https://double.finance/p/explore/factor-thesis). If there are more you want to see please let us know as we can most likely add them.

MIDU is unfortunately not eligible to be traded on a fractional basis by Apex. Main things missing are some new/low volume ETFs and ADRs (although we have some of them).

We can ACAT in existing positions to an Index yes, which would be "seeding" an index with shares you already own.

As for taxes, we provide a yearly summary for realized gains and losses that most tax professional can plug into their software.

And for TLH, yes for larger portfolios (above 20 tickers) we create a factor model of the portfolio using 4 factors - Momentum, Value, Quality and Min Volatility. When a stock is identified for TLH purposes, we will sell it and try and bring your overall portfolios factor exposure back in line. This provides for a much more flexible and robust way to do tax loss harvesting because not every stock has a relevant pair (for example a stock that just recently merged with another business might have no clear comparables)

Great question. The bid-ask spreads of the ETF itself already take into account the bid-ask spreads of the underlying securities, since there exists an arbitrage opportunity via the ETF redemption mechanism.

I found this PDF from State Street quite informative on the topic. We are working on our own data here as well and aim to share that down the line.

https://www.ssga.com/library-content/pdfs/etf/au/spdr-au-etf...

Yeah it's an interesting point. Due to the redemption mechanism of ETFs, my understanding is that an ETF's bid-ask spread is basically the weighted average of the bid ask spread of it's underlying holdings. Which to answer your questions means that buying the individual stocks within an ETF would result in approximately the same slippage as buying the ETF itself.

"Bid/ask spreads of the underlying securities directly impact the costs to market makers to trade ETFs" from this .pdf: https://www.ssga.com/library-content/pdfs/etf/au/spdr-au-etf...

We use fractional shares. But otherwise you are correct, our minimums are set to allow you to buy at least $5 of each member of the US 500.

We do not charge trade commissions. There are some SEC fees charged for trading across most major brokerages. The national best bid offer (NBBO) means you will get executed at the current best price for a given security across all exchanges.