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Yea there could also be an issue with learning how to hand hold an AI vs working on how to actually engineer good solutions. Maybe one feeds into the other since we're not getting off the AI train...

Agreed. However, I'm worried the productivity hack AI gives us might effect the "what" negatively.

Excited to use this been using unsloth models for the past couple years

Currently working on training language models steered towards certain "states of consciousness".

I have a model trained on publics datasets tied to brainwaves and/eye tracking and text comprehension (have this working well enough to experiment). Now I am training an adapter for various llm architectures to generate text steered to certain neural oscillation patterns (let's call them "states of consciousness" for brevity). I also have a 'rephraser' that rephrases text to elicit these certain states of consciousness. Overall experimenting with creating an suite of tools off my findings with how text relates to the eigenmodes of consciousness. My theory is once I do this I'll be able to do some...interesting things with "AI" agents. lmk if you want to talk about it if you're someone with knowledge in neuroscience/ML. My background is as a Software/ML Engineer so I could use additional thoughts. I do wish I could send a Github/docs which I will soon but this is currently a private project seeking investment for various research/public/private sector applications.

If anyone wants a free to use research agent try rex I've been building it for a couple months: https://projectrex.onrender.com/

If anyone wants a free to use deep research agent check out what i'm working on: https://projectrex.onrender.com/

It is not, Meha agent is fully custom except we don’t use our own models we’re using o3-mini for most of the inference

Thanks! That’s a great point we’ve been discussing how to deal with sensitive data after the launch. I think a corporate/enterprise version makes sense.

awesome that's the same reason why I use it. It's basically a balance between the full html and having the markdown type scrapers that are better for just text. Do you mind if I reach out to you once I set up the Github?

Oh damn I will definitely look into open sourcing it and making it a sdk

Awesome we just fixed these issues thanks for letting us know.

Sooo make your html extremely convoluted, randomized semantics, and a ton of hidden interations (+1 for only using custom web elements). basically make it like youtube. After spending way too much time building browser agents I can assure you this will also defeat Operator as well.

Thank you for the feedback. Personally besides using our API server, we would like to find another way to deploy to anyone who has an issue with this/wants to run everything local (not just the client). Also I think if we had a OSS plug and play version where you could enter in your API keys locally it would help us ship to more devs. Would you be interested in this?

Great! I will work on open sourcing that on our Github. It's basically a semantic format of html for AI agents to use the browser easily.

We have an API server where we execute all the agent reasoning/planning jobs then we stream the browser commands to the client. We mention this in the how it works section on the website. This is the main reason why we have the 5 bot a day limit is because of this. It's cheap for us to run as of now but if anyone would like us to ship a version where you'd use your own api keys (plug n play) locally let us know!

Anything improving reasoning chains of though improves planning. Right now the long term ones Art mentioned like logging in have been around 80% while simpler ones have been higher. Right now our main issue is figuring out how to keep the server up :/ we're getting a little more traffic than expected. However, to bump those success rates up (which we need to) we really really need to fine tune additional models which we're planning out right now.

I have a few ideas around that mostly going down the RL route (with a twist) mixed with some knowledge graph work. We'll give an update when we push that!

Thanks for letting us know can you email us at info@meha.ai or dm one of us on discord with more information we're working through all the bug reports in the next couple days.

maybe browser AI agent? Good note we didn't think of that.

Great question, so right now you can do both. It does work better if you simply enter in the url for your task.

For the url generation we do we have safety checks for the urls however it's simply in the prompting. I would love to hear what sort of safety suggestions you have and/or concerns about this sort of experience. Right now we're still figuring out how best to enable people to utilize agents safely.

Interesting can you lmk why you ditched all non native? We're discussing what decision to make on this now.

Oh please do report that on either the discord or email us. We had a few people request linux support; trying to log all the feedback. It's really just time limitations right now no prejudice :)

Packaging a browser runtime for a chat app is a concern when the base amount of resources is far more than what we need. I'm more concerned about dev community + what runtime we'd prefer managing local browser in. I'm looking to Go frameworks right now (I'm naturally moving away from python to Go personally) if anyone has any suggestions

This is a python QT app (for now) we're lookin to move to electron however packaging this has been...interesting.

It's all good! We're were mostly joking there I'm sure you have valid criticisms.

CopyCat looks great, we're building a similar alternative at Meha (also free and no sign up). https://meha.ai -> just download and start generating bots. Meha works similarly to CopyCat/Operator and controls your Chrome locally (+ is also free). How are you guys dealing with the operator launch in terms of product/strategy?

Im currently working on AI agents that control my chrome browser, I have a desktop app with a chat where it does various tasks for me like research/posting on sm/finding free ebooks for me. All using open source LLMs and custom code for the auto web scraping / interactions.

As someone who worked here seems odd they'd need a strike pretty good pay/benefits

I'm current building web browser AI agents (can do anything the browser can do via prompting, logging in, scraping, can code websites with the data it scrapes etc.) going to ship next week! if anyone wants to join our beta lmk.

haha yea i've been really enjoying this project. In terms of statefulness. It is quite a stateful coroutine. I will play around with it and see if i can get it working. Would be nice to use a more goto like method than raising exceptions. Thanks for your work

So I'm actually doing web browser automation via llm agents. So prompting to browser automation like "go to this webpage and do this". I have an algorithm for classifying html and then i'm generating "behaviors" to interact with it for each bot. The behaviors the llm generates are actually in a superset language that i parse the ASTs with lark. In the lark parsing the behaviors (like web scraping or element interactions) need to be stopped if the user says to do something else or stop or restart them...and man it's been a pain getting them to stop and clean up in a memory efficient way. Right now starting asyncio coroutines and canceling them are the best way ive found since a lot of this is async (using playwright)