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My apologies, I was referring to immediately putting sous vide items in a 50+% ice bath. I had turned off the Sous Vide and forgot about it. When I came back, the 10 gallon bucket was close to room temperature 24 hours later.

Upon further reading, it appears I could have served it immediately. Maybe. But the warm pasturization won't kill certain bacteria which can then proliferate. Which is why transiting the danger zone of 140f down to 40f very fast is necessary.

"Moreover, while keeping the food sealed in plastic pouches prevents recontamination after cooking, spores of Clostridium botulinum, C. perfringens and B. cereus can all survive the mild heat treatment of pasteurization. Therefore, after rapid chilling, the food must either be frozen or held at

    below 36.5°F (2.5°C) for up to 90 days,
    below 38°F (3.3°C) for less than 31 days,
    below 41°F (5°C) for less than 10 days, or
    below 44.5°F (7°C) for less than 5 days
to prevent spores of non-proteolytic C. botulinum from outgrowing and producing deadly neurotoxin (Gould, 1999; Peck, 1997)." [1]

[1] https://www.cheftalk.com/threads/sous-vide-botulism.63351/

Tangentially related, I sous vide some pork chops about a month ago, and forgot to take them out of the water bath in time for safe cool down and consumption.

I decided to keep them submerged in water in their original vacuum sealed bags, just to see what would happen.

So far, 1 month later, in about 16c water, they APPEAR the same. No gas buildup expanding the packaging and causing floatation. Just white looking meat in a bag.

Not sure how long this experiment will last, but considering 4 pork chops, I think it's time to take one out and open it up.

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Yes, but everybody is a Nazi, so who cares. Buy them if you want.

TL:DR; toilet seats and bathrooms are perfectly safe. Wash your hands.

I must be a very dirty person, because this article is very pedantic, and I would never consider any of these suggestions. I don't even wash my hands half the time, just run them under water so the other people in the house think I am civil and wash my hands after flushing the toilet.

Squat if you have the muscles, but be sure to aim because you might increase the risk to the next person?

This is just so absurd to me to be lectured by Health Officials and the NYT with then providing solutions to problems that dont exist.

Like seriously, the ONLY pathogen they could identify that COULD be picked up by the butt skin is MRSA. It's low risk, there are no stats or proof that MRSA is transmitted through public washroom seats.

And that risk averseness is parlayed into a virtue signalling lecture about squatting to avoid the non-risky public toilet seat, BUT OF COURSE be sure to (not shit everywhere) protect your fellow citizen from the non-risk of sitting on a dirty toilet seat.

I'm sick of the nanny state and all its parts.

I can get in this state too, Lightheaded helps, worn out helps, tired eyes from looking at a screen helps.

Then for some immediate relief, I will squeeze my nose bridge from the eye socket from both sides.

And in that moment of relaxation, I will see stars. Probably from starting to breath slower, it's a lack of oxygen caused faintness, then the light and fractals and patterns come in. If I relax, and dont blink, just chill, they will slowly grow larger. Blink or stop focusing and it goes away.

I think it has something to do with the liquid environment of the eye, and how tired and watery it can be. Squeezing that water away to another part seems to short circuit the eye and give fuzzy electrical sparks and fractal patterns.

This seems to be a wishful article. The signed letter is either "activist employees" (fireable offense), or about "working conditions" (wrongful termination due to retaliation)

"It strikes me as a letter that is mainly about working conditions,’ one lawyer said" (original article)

Vs.

“Elon’s behavior in the public sphere is a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment for us, particularly in recent weeks,” the letter states. “As our CEO and most prominent spokesperson, Elon is seen as the face of SpaceX — every Tweet that Elon sends is a de facto public statement by the company. It is critical to make clear to our teams and to our potential talent pool that his messaging does not reflect our work, our mission, or our values.” [1]

I know exactly what that paragraph sounds like to me..... Whiney SJWs.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/16/23170228/spacex-elon-musk...

Horrible, horrible, irrelevant study taking advantage of a public health crisis to use government money to study propoganda techniques on humanity.

They had "robust" finding before the vaccine was even out. It turns out you CAN mock and shame people into compliance when they know next to nothing and have very little experience in the subject. Makes complete sense. I'm only picking an arguement or a fight when I have an arguement to make. How do you push back against this stuff when there is no COVID vaccine history to use as supporting evidence? You don't. Just ignore. But when FORCED to make a declaration, people choose the easy way out.

After the vaccine had been out for 10 months, memes had no effect.

So do memes work? Or does mockery work? Or does it take ignorance of a subject AND mockery to get theoretical compliance?

The study is self reported. Would be interested to know the ACTUAL vaccination outcomes of these individuals.

I would suspect some would be resentful of being mocked, say the right things, and retaliate by not taking the vaccine.

They are an invasive species, any speargun fisher might be able to help you.

Last time I was in Jamaica I paid a fisherman $15 to hunt one down for me. A local seasoned and steam cooked it in tinfoil and we shared it.

That's usually how I do it..... Catch a hunter in the AM, eat in the PM.

I'm down for eating ugly fish! lionfish is my favourite. A natural predator at the top of the food chain, this invasive species is one of the fattiest fish in the ocean. An absolute treat.

But this monkfish, it's lean and tough?

Stupid question: if tobacco is a plant, and nicotine is naturally occuring and not added to the tobacco, how can this be done?

In the article, it says that nicotine is an additive, but then later on states the reduction could be accomplished by blending the tobacco leaves with other stuff to lessen the nicotine..

I'm not sure this writer even knows what's up.

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Can someone provide context on this journal, this article, and it authors?

It's seems what they are saying is verboten, and I am doubtful something like this would ever be published in the lancet or any other major journal, even if correct.

Which leads to my question about context for how this article came to be published. I'm interested if this is science on the fringe, or if the scientific establishment is now softening to allow dissent and views that could lead to vaccine hesitancy.

2 distinct strains "adding to health experts' confusion" LMAO! Maybe they aren't experts?

Can we skip the preamble this time? This isnt spreading in Africa. It's spreading in the highly vaccinated West.

14 of 29 Portuguese people who disclosed sexual orientation had AIDs. Several were hospitalised.

It's pretty clear that this virus attacks immunocompromised individuals, and that the world now has a shittonne of immunocompromised individuals.

How else to explain 2 strains in circulation where previous the longest recorded human to human transmission chain was 6 people?

Without building houses for them, this infection rate is unstoppable. I know here in Northern Canada it's not uncommon to have a dozen Natives in a small house.

The only way to help is with wealth increases. Everything else is theatre and destructive. What the government is going to hopelessly do to try to avoid this again, I don't know. I do know it won't work.

Can you give some input I why I don't here more about this? I've always said the first "Trillionaire" (excluding inflation) will be from space mining.

Yet it seems like everyone is keeping their space mining plans pretty tight, or they aren't very excited about it.

What am I missing? I know heavy elements "sink", and terrestrial impacts shoot these dense metals into space, so space mining should be pretty profitable.

Fun fact: the average density of rocks on earth's surface are about 2600kg/M3. The average of the entire earth is 5800kg/M3.

That's some dense stuff hanging out in the core!

Did he? Without the contract, it's impossible to know.

Due diligence and "fraud" are two different things.

If twitter's numbers are garbage, how is he supposed to do his due diligence before getting the data?

As a normal person, not involved in mergers and acquisitions, it seems perfectly reasonable to make an offer based on the presented facts, and then dig in to make sure they are correct before finalizing the deal.

If twitter won't give the data NOW, why would they give it to a prospective buyer?

I will agree with that. Safety wise though, I think there is more potential for Fusion to adapted widely with no fear from the public.

What is that worth? 50%? 100% premium over fission which not even the environmentalists can get behind???

Hilarious. The Corn Hockers lie and say: "We take this as EPA's position that biofuels continue to play a critical role in mitigating climate change and, most importantly, today in lowering prices at the pump for drivers across America," Kakesh told the Washington Examiner.

But then later in the article industry experts say it will add up to 30 cents a gallon.

At the end of the day, it's expensive, and the corn lobby is STILL lying about it to our faces in the media.

I would be interested in the alleged carbon reduction that this ethanol corn blending does.