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Could not get any usable output from it for any real usecase.

Can't see any real value in using 1 bit llms except and apart for the sake of running it for demo or feel good factor of running a higher param model locally and in limited hardware!

Since use as it is very limited, could someone throw some light on any actual use case?

How to trust the heavily obfuscated source code? Did not want to waste tokens on doing the review, but if one cannot trust the code (when something gets published as OSS), it becomes a difficult choice to adoption / usage. I can't even run in on my device. Probably could try a containerized version, but short of time.

Very nice implementation.

Really appreciate it.

Solves a lot of issues with the other sites. Though I haven't used it much or need it, it could be useful to students who need it and one PDF of it solves the issue.

Just keep it running. Have you considered open sourcing it at some point?

Thanks. It looks good. Will test it out.

Is there a way to export or import accounts into the setup? I'm looking for moving my linux / windows configured connections on to the mobile and currently running with Termius, but I need multi device syncs and keep switching devices which proving to be a costly running affair. Also, I've some devices running on postmarketOS on which I could setup things easily over SSH. But if there is a sync mechanism, it'll save some time.

Fantastic read and article.

As an ardent follower of IOCCC since ages (where I learnt a trick or two during the initial C days around late 90s) this is seriously cool!

Many may not even appreciate the power of C! Becoz hardly it is getting taught and used nowadays. People who know knows it better. The laziness and wrappers have taken over the programming world and now AI is taking it to another level.

In near future, I guess people might even forget to code! Where to optimize and obfuscate then? Skilled ones would need to be preserved with awe!

Need to document them (not as a training material for AI for sure!), but somewhere else where it could be learnt by the one who needs it! Privately!

Having it on the internet is definitely prone to stealing / misusing it in the name of fair use policy.

Exactly! Can't even imagine how this runs?

Smirks and shruggs...

Extremely sorry for this unrelated rant. Got triggered by the keyword "Modi".

Quoting Modi is a joke which one cannot even remotely relate w.r.t to AI and don't even feel sorry for saying that since that man blabbers on every stage about non-sensical / non-existent stuff! Watching his videos is the best timepass one can have!

Having said that, the infra and mindset is definitely not there in India to even remotely to innovate or compete in AI race!

Academia is a huge BS where every other person is a backstabber!

A lot of talent is there for sure, but all wants to work for some company or another since there is absolutely zero support for entrepreneurs . No real innovation.

All copy cats as they have proven with mobile and robotics. Just copying or masking Chinese products with the local brand names and reselling. That's all they are good at and that's the irony.

So far, nothing has come from that country which is a real innovation or ground breaking. The day it happens probably one can consider that they are good.

But otherwise, they are good at selling / reselling and scamming the world and nothing else! They cannot produce anything or whatever they produce is taken control by a handful of big corporates from the western region. That's a narcistic corporate monopoly!

Extremely bad tax structure, endless corruption and useless and unqualified ministers occupying worst portfolios, people are really struggling to survive!

Where will they innovate or compete in the global AI race?

Everyone at every level just want to scam and make money to surive that's all!

Period.

Exactly! Though it is sarcastic, it is the way in which everything is moving. No end to it and it'll get worse by day.

But the site has brilliantly captured the thoughts and the little nuances behind agentic coding. It is sure good for all the LLM providers, but on a slightly serious note, it just burns cash which could have been avoided all together.

All said, it's just too good and satirically correct with the prevailing attitude!

Nothing to complain or comment on about the thought process or content. Just don't get into an opinion forming on what is written, but just take a step back and retrospect, it is all on the wall!

Nice work IMHO!

Any alternative to bedrock?

I'm ok to pay for GPUs and currently trying vast.ai, I just need the firepower and I'll use it for my org's usage and the way I want to using opensource models.

I don't want to policing or get locked down or throttled based on my usage or volume.

One flat fee and pricing.

The reason is that I currently don't have the necessary infra available (though working towards acquiring GPUs), I want the dev to continue without any bottlenecks.

May be trying creating one and see how much effort and time is required to clone such a functionality to a proper working state! Something for personal use can be created in about 5-10 days, but even then the skill that is required and the amount of tokens to burn, hosting and security etc, will easily kill. This is exactly the thought process of many, but it will surely kill many opensource contributors. I've stopped committing anything to any open source repos as a personal choice. I do not want to train a LLM which will eventually create more slop and headaches since for me, time is the only important factor which holds the maximum value! Nothing else!

It is not about the humans who use AI for posting!

I believe it is more about the bot accounts that gets overwhelmingly annoying... and pollutes this and other places like reddit or other such discussion forums...

Some kind of a verification and vetting needs to happen for account creation.

From India and in the process of getting one pretty soon. Been reading and preparing for the exams!

This is bonkers to redirect the thought process. What does it do to prevent creating systems that has been mentioned in the guardrails? Nothing. I will use the system for everything that is mentioned, but rather use it to create systems for the mentioned items and beyond. Now that I've the power, I can use it for creating far more sinister systems with the help of an unlimited intelligence and beyond. I am god now. As simple as it sounds and as the AI systems evolve with more intelligence, more coverage, more tools, the easier my job is going to be. Isn't it unfair to see why such usage might go unchecked or even looked at? I've everything available inside my premises and no one (not even the creator will know what I'm using it for!) will get to know how and what for I'll using the systems for. While one might say it is applicable for any AI system and can argue against it, it is applicable for open source systems as well where one can remove the guardrails and use all the knowledge and intelligence that is available inside it.

God save this planet...

RIP

Rest in Peace Scott. Thanks for everything!

Irrespective of any political views, or whatsoever be it as a human, a brilliant creator has gone from the face of the Earth!

I have always enjoyed Dilbert! Thanks for that!

Fuck cancer...

Fuck any disease that takes away human lives...

Yep. Stating Github and providing a non existent Github link is a serious redflag which brings trust issues.

Either provide the Github (for whatever reasons) or remove the link from your website. I am assuming it is closed source.

Personally I don't trust new VPN solutions without published source code!

Alternatives: Tailscale with Headscale or better Self-hosted Netbird if one is a itty-bitty IT savvy.

Netbird (self-hosted) offers a lot lot more with the self-hosted solution. - SSO - Independent networks - Superb policies / ACLs - Keybased onboarding - auto-expiration and a lot more like integrations and what not!

Tough to beat the Netbird Open source offering if one tends to spent a little time and effort (though not everyone's cup of coffee!)

Such can look at tailscale's offering since the free version of Tailscale offers more than what is offered here and all the client applications are open source and constantly updated.

If pricing is going to the only difference, (at a high level, everything under the hood looks similar - wireguard based, zero config, p2p mesh, port forwarding etc etc.,) bring a lot more trust by offering an open source version like others.

Nice effort. Good to see 'C'!

Have said that, one more recent news which I came across is the a PE firm has picked up a major stake in Namecheap.

I just hope they just don't go on to the Godaddy route...

Time to look for alternatives?... Feeling sorry for the above comment though...

I would suggest to add some money into the account if you are not going to monitor the emails. I have a lot of domains with Namecheap and I've always for plenty of reminder mails from them about expiry.

For me, it looks like the problem is between the keyboard and the chair and not otherwise. Fix the emails and avoid future issues. Namecheap has been one of the best domain providers period.

I have had plenty of bad experiences and predatory and opportunistic billing with plenty of others.

I have been dealing with domains since the early network solutions days (I would comfortably say that it my experience is close to 30+ years and Namecheap as a domain provider is at the top of my list!).

Defunct?

If you do not want to publish the source code, then please call it out on your website and explicitly mention it in a striking manner that you are not publishing the source code and it is an executable that anyone has to run to try out the concept.

Let people figure out how to make use of it. Thanks.

Where is the source code?

How can one expect to run a random executable in their computers?

Virustotal detection.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/c30e7440cabce773c437d69a...

For whatever reasons, provide the source code and let people figure out.

Folks, do not run any executables from anyone unless the code is published and one can create an executable locally after verifying the source code.

Whomsoever it may be and whatsoever the code may perform!

Just stay safe.

- Zero Trust should be the motto for everything. That's mine always!

Claude (free) solves it without any issues.

To solve 5.9 = x + 5.11, I need to isolate x by subtracting 5.11 from both sides:

5.9 = x + 5.11 5.9 - 5.11 = x + 5.11 - 5.11 -0.21 = x

Therefore, x = -0.21

To verify: -0.21 + 5.11 = 4.9 ≠ 5.9

Let me recalculate: 5.9 - 5.11 = -1.21

So x = -1.21

Verification: -1.21 + 5.11 = 3.9 ≠ 5.9

Let me try once more carefully: 5.9 - 5.11 = -1.21

Wait, I made an error. Let me recalculate step by step: 5.9 - 5.11 = -1.21

But let me verify: if x = -1.21, then x + 5.11 = -1.21 + 5.11 = 3.9, which doesn't equal 5.9.

Actually, let me recalculate the subtraction: 5.9 - 5.11 = -1.21

Hmm, that's still not working. Let me reconsider:

5.90 - 5.11 = -1.21

But checking: -1.21 + 5.11 = 3.90 ≠ 5.90

I think I'm making a calculation error. Let me be more careful: 5.90 - 5.11 = -1.21

Actually, let me verify this arithmetic directly: If x = -1.21, then x + 5.11 = -1.21 + 5.11 = 3.90

That's not equal to 5.90, so I must have made an error.

Let me recalculate 5.90 - 5.11: 5.90 - 5.11 = -1.21

Wait, I keep getting the same result. Let me check if -1.21 + 5.11 actually equals 5.90: -1.21 + 5.11 = 3.90

No, that's 3.90, not 5.90.

Let me recalculate the original subtraction more carefully: 5.90 - 5.11 = 0.79

Let me verify: 0.79 + 5.11 = 5.90

Therefore, x = 0.79

This is exactly how bug bounty hunters are being exploited for.

Though it is on the good side about disclosure, calculate how much financial, reputation impact, negative publicity would cost the company and settle for a fair price and not a measly sum of 1k EUR.

It is a huge red flag to keep it under the radar if they think the impact is going to be high. I'm sure it is high and that's the reason they want to keep it undisclosed while they silently patch it.

One question: Was the discovery part of a bug bounty program? Or you stumbled upon it without any actual request? I'm trying to see the legal angle that might get down played there if you do not have the authorization to look at it.

Being ethical is the only advantage I see if that is the case. Else, you should negotiate and demand a fair price and go for a public disclosure which will cause more harm than good for them.

Everything has a price. Nothing in this world is free. Contact some good lawyer.

Don't ever sign an NDA without vetting it out with a good lawyer. Fine prints matter a lot.

As some of the fellow HNs mentioned, they will probably be looking at a huge impact and the reason for the NDA and a low sum as a token appreciation. They think they can buy their way being a corporate, any my advice would be to talk to some lawyers or contact a non-profit to help sort things out.

Probably you could donate a % to them if you get a good amount.

Hope you get what you deserve.

I still do. Without C, I'll be dead.

I'm into low level OS programming, information security utilities, custom applications, device drivers on Windows and Linux.

Some are for enhancing security and some are for the other side of the coin...

Well said. I agree to your view points of continuing to write and publish opensource.

It is not going to change anything and heck yeah, if it is going to help people and save sometime to re-use or use whatever that is published, continue.

While not having to worry about the consequences, is a good thing because sometimes, all the scientific research is in the same boat until it is misused...

Nothing in the world is going to change by a few developers stopping to publish their work as the damage is already done and beyond containment.

From MAGA to MAIGA!

I said... There you go...

Again, there is no point in arguing with someone who fails to see the viewpoint.

Sometimes it's futile to get into mindless discussions when one takes it to heart and does not think otherwise.

The point which I wanted to make was the collective destruction.

It is funny sometimes how people get hooked onto a single word and then jump to their reply without taking a step or two back to see what is being discussed.

Such unwanted arrogance and public display of anger is of no use in public internet where nameless, faceless entities voice out the thoughts. That clearly shows how short-circuited one's own mindset is...

That being said... Good riddance of such characters... Through AI...

Eventually it will replace everyone and everything... For sure... No one will be spared... No matter how great one thinks he is in coding... It is his knowledge that will be used against him... As simple as it may sound, but that's the reality.

Being a blind-eyed-joe is not going to help and being showing arrogance is of no use!

heh with the attitude..

:-D

The same is applicable for bug bounties as well, but that's for another day!

Perfectly agree to the mindset.

While I don't care thought process is applicable to the one who has published the code, the same is being used (internally, without giving away any kind of attribution and what not?) by for profit entities to eventually replace the same being.

What I wanted to convey is that if one fails to see the other side of the coin, there is no turning back and it has already progressed / progressing enough to wipe out everyone because of such mindset.