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Dude this is the funniest comment I've read this month. Thank you

Cool, so now that open weight models are closing in on SOTA, SOTA enshittifies.

Now for the crash

My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperials. Can you say the same?

Well, yeah. No one does.

But, also, as said, you're an industry (and foss!) veteran, so I find it impossible to believe that you haven't had your fair share of baseless bullshit being thrown at you, and with that, you gaining a persona that will not be hit by that, because it clearly knows that it is in fact bullshit.

Unless of course it doesn't really know that with certainty.

As said, I would _love_ to give you the benefit of the doubt, because you might just have a stressful day or whatever, but content marketing is literally your whole thing by now. It is impossible for me to do that with a clean conscience.

Your blog front page currently opens with

Earlier this month I hosted a fireside chat session at the AI Engineer World’s Fair with Cat Wu and Thariq Shihipar from Anthropic’s Claude Code team.

That is not what "some rando foss maintainer we are morally obligated to be soft with" does.

But I repeat myself.

It's both.

I agree to rednb that at this point it feels like rather obvious brand building, but also, I agree with you that some value is in it.

It does not feel all that authentic though, and it's good to react allergically to lack of authenticity. Bad for a lot of business models, but good for humanity.

They want to turn LLMs into a commodity, and watch the US AI labs crash and burn.

Man, imagine Darios face when suddenly, he cannot decide anymore what other people consensually do with their own hardware in their free time.

Rumpelstilzchen.

it seems to respect user's choice of "prefers reduced motion".

Cool, that I didn't check, because it is impossible to enable that setting, as it breaks _huge_ amounts of websites.

I'm not aware of a way to enable it selectively, but one could also just display the content at all times. It's a static page. It's static content. None of this makes any sense.

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The idea behind that style of gradual reveal is probably some kind of storytelling, but the only story it tells is that mozilla is wasting donations on people with incorrect opinions that could be used on.. idk not building torment nexii?

This new trend of content appearing while scrolling down is so terrible accessibility-wise, I do not understand how Mozilla of all institutions would do it.

Not every trend needs to be followed. Have some backbone. You receive donations to have that.

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Apart from the website being - frankly - bullshit, the content is also - frankly - bullshit.

It's just on the frontpage because the title says "open source AI".

To be exactly that guy:

This cannot happen if you do not do this renting at variable rates.

A thing you own doesn't suddenly bill you trillions of dollars in error. It doesn't hyperscale either, but neither do you.

Aren't all conferences just huge piles of cognitive dissonance?

At least the "industry" ones used for "networking" and all that other crap. Where's the news here? And why does the author not take a step back and realize that there is none?

Using a code agent involves editing big chunks of multi-line text, and getting hosed with information that you need to scan, navigate, and understand. I find a terminal UX horrible for all those tasks, and Juggler is resolutely a GUI app.

Thank you for building software made for actual productive usage instead of weird ricer clout and other performative nonsense.

Yes, it's another AI coding agent. The industry definitely needed one more.

It actually does need more of them. The current count of harnesses that don't suck is a float somewhere around 0.3, maybe.

Keep doing what you're doing!

I'd love to have software that is actually made to solve problems instead of somehow pretend-granting me some identity. Or just being made by people with no taste in general.

My god the agent harness space is so bad. As if no one in there has ever seen a software in their whole life.

As opposed to dang wearing the HN hat.

Well I mean for starters, one might disagree whether all members of "the community" should actually be part of it/be catered to.

I mean it's kinda hard to kick out the VC brainrot get-rich-quick sanity-is-tertiary scum when you're literally housed under a ycombinator subdomain, but that is technically also a choice that people might see as controversial.

Because value of a project is not in the code produced. It's in the amount of battle-testing that code has seen.

Rel: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

Cool tech, but the writing flags as AI.

em dash, staccato

no thing 1, no thing 2, just thing 3

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Please don't harm your work like this. Let it speak for itself + add your authentic voice.

Completely meta and possibly out-of-place, but this thread was I think my first encounter with dang (the human), and, based on it, I'm filled with respect for him.

Good job being you. Please continue doing so.

I want to run a model comparable to today’s SOTA.

It says so in the quoted text, yes.

I feel like this is kinda sorta to be expected.

Every time someone actively approaches you with an offer to spend their real energy and lifetime on your thing, It's almost always about leverage in some way.

At least if there is actual work attached to it.

Money alone might be paid by people that just have too much of it or want to feel better about something.

But if they actively involve themselves to a degree that goes way beyond scratching their own itch, something's up.

You might get lucky and find a just genuinely good person, but you might also not.

That's because we haven't yet started to laugh people out of the room that get uneasy and complain when the rate of updates of something starts slowing down.

Are you sure that minecraft pioneered that model?

It is certainly a very well-known instance of it, but pioneered?

Dude that animation sucks so much I could not believe that there was no way of disabling that without disabling _all_ animations.

The fact that it makes content move in a way that is illegal breaks my mind. You try to check "is this the end" and it all starts moving. What the hell. Why.

I kinda forgot just how much I hate this animation. Thanks for the reminder. Why, google.

But you haven't really delved into that.

Dude, are you also playing that script or what?

Of course you do not engage on the level the possibly malicious party wants you to engage, because if you do that, you play their game by their rules.

Have you even tried engaging with what I just said? (inb4 "but you didn't do either!!111")

God, this fucking platform. Whatever man. Go have fun being dragged (or dragging others) into never-ending bad-faith arguments.

Hm not necessarily. You "just" need to get code onto the system that is somehow being loaded into the gpg process or has the ability to load code into a gpg process.

Of course, still orders of magnitude harder than just modifying the js bundle, but not a counter-example.

Snake oil is just a fundamentally wrong label for the issues OP is seeing, even though those issues are of course real and relevant.

Isn't non-web-based cryptography affected (as per this take) in the same way but with extra steps?

A sophisticated actor might as well also control the application that ends up on my device. It does not have to be the same delivery mechanism as long as I did not write it myself.

So all cryptography is snake oil?

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I mean I kinda sorta get the point and there would be some merit to discuss there, but the weird framing makes that very hard to do.

Of course it's easier to break web e2ee if you are for example cloudflare compared with someone also having to compromise the Debian repos.

But that's not what snake oil means.

Huh, good point. True.

The motion itself indeed gets picked up intuitively by the brain.

Okay, I'm convinced that picture rotation should be animated to the exact degree that achieves this.

Do I need to be entertained by my butter knife, mop or screwdriver?

I really don't think that "keeping people entertained" is a sensible goal within the context of building software as tools and not software-adjacent Art.

Which is not to say that I would not want a great and polished experience, but that is not equivalent to "being entertained".

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It would be nice if not everything one interacts with would try to get some sort of emotion out of me. Bring back being bored.

Yes in a vacuum.

No on the Internet.

Especially not on the sea-lion infested HR-world Internet, in which trolling has evolved to exploit good faith directly.

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In fact, "being overly hostile" is exactly how you probe to see whether your suspicions are correct.

Sea lioning exploits the gap between what would be a real human thing to do and what still passes as what a real human would do.

So to get useful data, you need to modulate parameters so that people end up outside of that gap window.

Essentially you're probing for genuine Human-ness by creating a context in which the bad faith action space is no longer overlapping with the genuine human action space.

This works, because genuine humans have this amazing ability to reconcile and actually genuinely resolve misunderstandings. Something that is fundamentally impossible for bad faith actors.

(This should not be understood as "just be overly hostile" because simply being a dick doesn't provide any data at all.)

I don't want my image editor to feel like something in a creative manner though.

I want it to rotate an image by 90° when I tap the button that does that.

See, this is exactly my point when I say that animations are no end in themselves. They serve a supporting role to better get the actual job done.

The actual job is not "feel" it is "do". For vibes, there are movies, Art, and AI hallucinations.

Of course, "feel" can greatly enhance the "do", but only if it takes the back seat, which is exactly what I just said.

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The age-old debate "form follows function" vs "form over function", essentially.

One of them is correct tho, because in the real non-ZIRP world, correctness is defined as "achieves a tangible goal".

Which is not to say that stuff optimizing for other goals would be "incorrect" or "worthless", but it exists in a different category from "software". More like "software-adjacent Art".

The distinction being made based on "what is the primary goal we want to achieve here"

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Related:

Also caused by ZIRP but differently, we have that problem that software trying to invoke feelings usually does so because it wants to sell you something or has any other style of goal that might not be aligned with yours.

So that adds yet another layer.

Pure utility cannot scam people into stuff they actually didn't want to do.

That is a valid opinion to hold, however, the question of "what is wrong with X? Y is outdated and over" is

a) a different statement from "I prefer X"

and

b) pretty low effort, trivially to Google (or ask AI) and generally a bit on the ignorant side

A better reply would not just have said what it said but contained actual wonder about the topic. Like this, it's just indistinguishable from engagement bait.

Speaking entirely out of my ass here:

FOMO for sure is one of the driving factors.

"We cannot risk looking outdated". So weak management, probably.

But also talent availability I suppose. If there's a new trend, the pool of people you can hire include many that are in on that trend.

UI frameworks too, probably. The modern thing™ does the modern thing™ and you do want to be on the modern thing, because you fear that only that receives security fixes or whatever.