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The entire point of Zionism is to convince Jewish people to move to Israel, they weren't "cleansed" from their countries of origin. Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe, they invaded, actually ethnically cleansed and oppressed Palestine.
Palestine was invaded by terrorists from Europe who ethically cleansed the land (and continue to do so). They didn't "start a genocidal war".
No, they did however increase engagement in democracy in a very dramatic fashion. More people making demands from their government is a good thing.
TikTok has to adhere to the exact same laws as Facebook and Twitter, foreign ownership doesn't change that.
Adversarial to whom? Not me, I'm far more concerned about the US government who in this case is directly limiting my choices as a US citizen.
A human is not a bot. In addition to being dehumanizing, it removes agency to say that.
How is it a botnet? Apple isn't going to allow botnet like behavior in any app it approves in the app store.
It's no worse that what Facebook or Twitter does (or has done). I would prefer to have a plurality of options and not be limited to apps that are owned by countries the US deems "allies".
I want to use TikTok as it exists today. Why should that right be taken away from me by the US government? This is going to have major political backlash from the millions of people happy with TikTok if they manage to pass it.
I don’t believe there was any sexual assault. There’s precedent for this type of armed resistance. The Haitian Slave Revolt and the Pueblo Revolt are both very similar. I think Oct 7th was justified, I don’t want to litigate it here though. This will be my last comment, I just want to state what a lot of people are thinking so it’s not misrepresented. I know many people here won’t agree.
Things like calling the Palestinians “amalek”, carving the Star of David into a playground with bulldozers, IDF soldiers taking about fulfilling prophecy…
I don’t think anyone forgot. A lot of people think Israel caused this with Nakba and their actions since then. I don’t want to start a flamewar, I just don’t think people forgot, they’re just not on Israel’s side.
Why would Hamas want to help the Israeli economy?
Zionists have literally worked with Nazis to further the goals of Zionism. Look at the Haavara Agreement.
Politics came to the tech community in the form of Israeli manipulation of tech platforms and militant, blacklisting Zionism from the VCs. Israel caused this.
This article leaves out why he was being protested. Matisyahu was giving concerts to IDF while they were terrorizing Gaza:
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/175839406673858174...
What were the images of? Why doesn't the Guardian describe them instead of just putting in a bunch of weasel words.
the Guardian itself is regularly accused of having anti-Israel bias
That's definitely not been the case since Oct 7th. They've been extremely pro-Israel, just like all of the MSM.
It's not "hate speech" to call to the end of an apartheid government.
It's probably the clearest example of an apartheid state that exists today.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-...
You're making a lot of assumptions about my position. I most certainly do think we owe both indigenous people and Black people massive amounts of land reparations in the US.
Israel can be disbanded just like South Africa was disbanded. It has less support than ever before politically.
Israel must face the reality that is an apartheid state that exists on occupied land. There is no solution until that happens. Just like apartheid South Africa was dismantled, Israel has to face the same fate or forever be locked into warfare and oppressing Palestinians.
I don't believe that might makes right and just because Israel is armed and backed by the West does not give them impunity to steal land. 1948 was not hundreds of years ago, there are people who are still alive who were ethnically cleansed from their land and forced into Gaza. Palestinians have a much stronger right of return than anyone who wasn't living in Palestine prior to 1948.
Zionists worked to recruit Jewish people from Arab nations to populate Israel. It wasn't until Zionist intervention that hostilities ramped up.
Zionists even false flag attacked Iraqi Jews to help spur immigration to Israel:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-jews-attacks-zionist...
Like the parent says, these have all been widely reported on. I think we have to come into this conversation with a base level of the events that are going on before commenting.
The damage to Israel is immense. I actually don't think it's going to survive as a state. They've lost the support of the world, there's no end in sight to the violence that will happen both in Israel and around its borders and there's massive civil unrest for multiple reasons including that they can't afford to pay for the war and their religious entitlement programs, yet they're funding them anyway.
It is both a moral and a business mistake to invest in Israel. Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Google... not only are these brands taking a hit for their association with Israel, they now have a large presence in a place that will face continuous violence for the foreseeable future. I think the moral of the story from a business perspective is to never work with an apartheid state.
I wouldn't invest in Israeli companies. Between boycotts, political instability and general moral guidelines it seems like a really bad idea if you want a return or to do the right thing. I hope and imagine we will see Intel, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Google... divest their Israeli assets over time as the state becomes more of a pariah.
Looks like it's censored here too.
This website is focused on the ongoing genocide of Palestinians which has major support from US and European venture capitalists.
You can clearly see from the tweets that it was Tan that started tweeting anti-Palestinian tweets.
Paul Graham has been very mildly pro-Palestinian and the VC community at large has been trying to "cancel" him because of it. Garry Tan is part of that community and is presumably trying to signal that he's pro-Zionist and not in line with PG (despite most of the world being in line with PG).