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I do wish openhaystack would be updated for MacOS 15, currently using a fork from a PR because of changes in MacOS 15’s mail app.

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The closest one because why does this matter, again?

Also, for anyone wondering, the password for every student (the one that prevents people from taking the test at home) is 8 characters and *extremely* easy to guess. I won’t say it here, but given that this code grants access to take the test in the first place, you’d think it would be more complicated.

Hi HN, I’m currently sitting in a testing center right now, and the technicial issues are real. Among other things, the testing app needed a last minute update, the preloaded test on the app failed to load for everyone, and the Wi-Fi is down/at a crawl from people using it to download said update. This is fun.

It would not surprise me if the test was delayed last minute due to a security issue. I've seen firsthand the level of security in the testing application, and it is worryingly lacking. Did you know that they literally link 'desmos.com/calculator' as the calculator in the math section? That's opening the door to all sorts of security issues. And they're certainly saving money, the digital is the same cost as the paper[1].

[1] https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat/help-center/students/p...

Would not 'losing steam' on a long test be indicative of motivation and also be part of the test? Remember, the test is a lot more than the questions; the test is also about pacing and focus.

Is this change motivated by issues regarding self pacing? I think that to the Collegeboard, the change to digital was to make it easier to distribute and easier to take (digital, shorter time). However, I think that this has some unintended consequences in how it will limit student freedom to self-pace, and the possibility of unjust scores if the student does not make the qualifying 'second stage' difficulty on the adaptive part.

Good luck with your upcoming test!

Thanks for the kind words! When I heard that the test would be digital, I rushed to sign up for a paper section, and was lucky enough to get a slot (and a good score). I'm only now taking the digital because my school is offering it on campus, and that's just too convenient to pass up.

Yes. A virtual machine specifically bypasses any on-device protections, protections which the terms of service indicate they have. However, I think the primary deterrent to cheating here would be as you mentioned the proctor and the other students.

To get around this, I theorize a more subtle overlay could be fashioned (imagine some sort of screen reader that speaks chatGPT-generated answers through the provided earbuds). However, at that point you could spend your time studying for the test in the first place.

They have a ‘secure environment’ but the testing app ‘Bluebook’ is also available for download for practice tests and even to the general public. They have a chromeOS PWA, a Mac Universal app, and a Windows version.

I can also personally attest that the app will run perfectly happy inside a Windows virtual machine, even inside the ‘secure testing mode’, as this is how I personally took the 11th grade PSAT a few months ago.

As a current high school student who will be taking the digital SAT this March, I can assure you that paper is alive and well both in the classroom and in testing. I don’t love the new digital testing system, and I see it as a failure of their system that students can no longer self pace through the test.