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I recognize this, and I embrace it.

Cryptography is the one thing in the world that isn't easily defeated by the absurd amount of violence States are willing to commit in the interests of controlling society.

That's a feature, not a bug.

I for one am tired of using coercion to define society and we would do well to embrace anything that disempowers violence.

How is 100% cloning another site's design acceptable at all?

1. The design is open source under a CPAL license which notabug abides by

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/tree/753b17407e9a9d...

2. a goal of notabug is to support existing reddit stylesheets with minimal/no modifications; this requires dom compatibility and minimal CSS changes in the base design.

3. reddit is abandoning this formerly open source design in favor of their new design by default.

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The Commission's Divisions of Corporation Finance, Investment Management, and Trading and Markets (the "Divisions") encourage technological innovations that maintain the status quo, and we have been consulting with entrenched market participants regarding issues presented by new technologies.

We wish to emphasize, however, that subjects must still adhere to our arbitrary mandates and outdated framework when dealing with technological innovations, regardless of whether the securities are within our regulatory purview or using new technologies we don't understand or wish to succeed.

The Commission's recent shakedowns involving AirFox, Paragon, Crypto Asset Management, TokenLot, and EtherDelta's founder, discussed further below, illustrate the importance of doing what we say. Broadly speaking, the issues raised in these actions fall into three categories: (1) selling things without permission; (2) buying things without permission; and (3) trading things without permission

So one of the fundamental differences between GUN and a blockchain is peers don't need to have the same dataset, or to necessarily agree on the state of the world.

The goal with notabug is that you should be able to run a peer with any sort of moderation structure you like including what you describe.

It's already possible with just ui changes to ignore votes entirely. the new sort works this way.

Comments can be sorted by new in this manner as well but isn't exposed in the UI yet.

The filtering you describe will be achievable with the moderation system I plan to build here:

https://notabug.io/t/notabug/comments/ea1104bf0535370d0b27a1...

You would set up a lens with a list of users (public keys) who paid you the verification fee.

You build a space with that lens as the good lens, and lenses for each of your editors to remove or highlight content in other spaces.

I don't know what the best model for online communities is. My vision for notabug.io is to shamelessly clone open source reddit in functionality and UX. But my vision for notabug more generally is as a system for disparate approaches to online forums in a connected system.

It's a flaw inherent to democratic Internet voting-based comment filtering, no?

Quite possibly so; increasing the vote difficulty may help here; but one thing to keep in mind is that the proof of work voting is not necessarily the only voting approach that could be supported. The proof of working voting I think works best at a large scale of users something notabug doesn't have yet.

It was something easy to implement that works decently enough for now; but with a decentralized network different peers can experiment with different voting and sorting strategies.

Author of notabug here.

GUN uses a proof of work for account creation/login I think, but otherwise no there is no proof of work requirement for updates.

I added the proof of work requirement to votes as part of my own validation. The difficulty at https://notabug.io is set quite low, but https://dontsuemebro.com is a peer that still has it set quite a bit higher, it rejects the cheaper votes at notabug.io so the scores/sorts are different.

Spent a lot of time focusing on performance, notabug.io is running GUN with redis as a storage adapter and doing server side rendering to speed up the user experience.

Domain pages are currently all gun/clientside though with out the server doing anything special to help at all.

https://notabug.io/domain/youtube.com/

Also when using the infinite scroll feature or chat most all content is loaded directly through gun without intermediary REST calls.

All it would take is one great, open forum site to absorb the refugees from a terrible management mistep

This is the goal of https://notabug.io it's a p2p fork of reddit based on GUNdb. Still very early; but my hope is that there will be enough interest in lifeboats that people will be interested in helping to construct one.

I've been saying that the Scarlet Letter Administration of Pao are "paper tigers swimming in a barrel of incompetence"

But today's tone deafness astounds even me. They have no allies left.

They also immediately destroyed the narrative that reddit just hates Pao because she's a woman. Victoria was one of the most popular and well respected admins ever.

Even the tinfoil hats at /r/conspiracy trusted her not to manipulate.

Is there anyone left NOT mad at reddit now? Maybe SubredditDrama....

http://i.imgur.com/6qa9K4R.jpg

Not only that, they should recognize that yes one use pattern of reddit was to get the word out of things you think other people ought to here. This attracts users that have something to say; and that attracts users who want something to read/hear etc...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

This too can drive growth. If the community gets the impression that they don't drive the content then reddit loses all the magic.

The truth is, the users haven't driven the content of the front-page since the fall of /r/reddit.com following Occupy Wall Street.

The front page algorithm is specifically tailored to normalize the appearance of subs precisely so this sort of thing doesn't happen. It's simply not true that the front page would get flooded with politics if you brought in a single default subreddit that allowed general advocacy (or just reddit rule parity like /r/reddit.com did).

Also what makes /r/TwoXChromosomes any different?

Can't you see how that seems a bit unfair to long term politically oriented users of reddit when kn0thing is making statements like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/35ym8t/promote_ideas_...

And ekjp is out doing interviews with avowed feminists and talking about safe spaces?

If reddit doesn't want to be a platform for political advocacy and activism just make that clear and be fair and even handed about it. Right now some groups are allowed to coordinate email campaigns while others are not and this favoritism has existed at high levels of reddit (whether due to mod cliques or admin influence) ever since the Ron Paul campaign.

The truth is that everyone posting to reddit is posting it with some measure of "YOU need to read this" and the state of default moderation leads to a torment for users who actually want to contribute in ways that powermods (and now admins) disagree with.

The new safe space rule is "Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person (1) conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or (2) fear for their safety or the safety of those around them."

The way this is written implies that safety is not the only factor in harassment, but that continued actions to torment and demean users in a way that makes reasonable people conclude that reddit is not a platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/36iduv/what_is_the_ap...

But the community team seems to only be using it to "ban behavior not ideas" by banning fresh subreddits that share any similarity with previously objectionable subs that were banned for harassing activity without warning, and without submitting any evidence to the community of the behavior so contemptible that it was worthy of disbanding a relatively large community without warning or any recourse whatsoever.

But to be clear, the banning of FPH did not trigger my outrage, I was stunned and appalled at Pao's statements wrt to Free Speech recently it's just a massive departure from the historical nature of the site and it's disingenuous to not acknowledge that to the community from whence you draw all power and profit.

I've asked this repeatedly at reddit and have still yet to ever receive an answer and I think it goes to the core of many of the concerns the reddit community has over the new direction.

Why is /r/TwoXChromosomes the only default subreddit to allow political advocacy?

Not a single default would have accepted kn0thing's first post in todays reddit.

Reddit as a political soapbox died around the time of Occupy Wall Street. It's as neutered as Facebook now.