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Terence Tao also uses Anthropic's models in his work. Oh, you didn't know that? Well, now you can pivot to saying that he's getting paid off by both companies. This is actually one of the hallmarks of both conspiratorial nonsense and military-grade cope. Any fact, regardless of how mundane or extraordinary, gets re-imagined as evidence of the same mad-hatter conclusion.

I hope people are screenshotting this stuff. This really needs to be documented. It's remarkable how wild it's getting.

Blog post here: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3

What's the opposite of "keeping alive"? You've already set the scenario and power scale. Don't chicken out now. This is your sick fantasy.

Defunding wasteful programs that steal money from the actual working class is a good thing, actually.

But that's neither here nor there, since we're talking about a world with an artificial superintelligence. That's the hypothetical here.

Got it. You have no intention of defending what you actually said there.

owners of the machine have no need to keep you alive

And what reason do they have for killing everyone else? Where is this abject nonsense even coming from? You can't just assert that the "owners of the machine" are all cartoonishly evil for some unknown reason.

All else being equal, at least Sam Altman et al. aren't constantly making up fantasies about exterminating people.

because that's not what matters

According to you.

why pursue a real relationship if pornography gets me off

An ever increasing number of people are making this choice as well. You don't like it? Then do something different with your own life.

The gulf between reality and this tech-illiterate grifter continues to widen. I strongly suspect his shtick will fall apart before this year is over. And I hope at least some have been keeping close track of what he's been saying.

Zitron is actually making both of those arguments. And both are equally wrong.

You can do that now anyway, but you aren't.

Why so intent on putting me in these scenarios and then telling me what I should do/feel?

how do you imagine

By not imagining a world of that both contains superintelligence and people still mopping the floors.

My general prediction is that we'll see an immense amount of wealth creation and this will naturally trickle everywhere. This is both a continuation and speeding up of the trend we're seeing right now. I think the unusual outcome would be for us to stray from this path.

you will have nothing of value to contribute too

So perhaps I can finally rest and solely focus on the stuff that I like. For this to be a problem, we need to imagine a dystopian scenario where our systems (and those who run 'em?) are effectively all-powerful and also cartoonishly selfish for no good reason at all.

Yes, I've heard of it. And I say that there's no bubble and the AI market is greatly undervalued.

Bonus: And we should recognize that kids have responsibilities too. If they do something bad, it's silly trying to throw the blame on whatever the current moral panic is. Video games, D&D, rock/rap music, AI (!), etc.

This is where internet lore and 'YouTuber'-made movies will begin to pass stuff like Star Wars and the DCU in popularity and the mainstream consciousness. Backrooms will gross just as much as the Mandalorian movie and the upcoming Supergirl flop, if not more. Glad to see it. In terms of good will, this point was passed well over a decade ago.

Cal Newport is a grifter whose one and only output nowadays is posting anti-AI rhetoric.

Weird thing to brag about here, assuming it's even true. Furthermore, the "empire cultures" thing is clearly false since most researchers and other professionals in this field speak at least two or three languages. This is a global endeavor, not some pet project of a single language or culture.

And the power of "language models" (or any sort of deep learning, really), does not come from assuming that some specific input-output modality, like English text, is the ultimate foundation of thought. Strong versions of this claim were laid to rest around the time when GPT-2 came out. I'd also go further and argue that many people working on the symbolic AI of yesteryear already understood this as well.

LLMs are next token predictors

The point is that this is no more relevant, informative, or even accurate than "carbon-based facial expression predictors". Any phenomenon in the Universe can be described by a simple and/or insulting short phrase. In other comments you've also shouted out "autocomplete!" and "Markov chain!", as if these phrases are a knock-down argument.

"Pachinko machine", "avalanche", and "game of mad libs" has also been used:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47916405

Humans learn through their experiences, not just backprop.

Sure, sure. And humans move through the act of walking, not just terrestrial locomotion.

Token predictors are lesser, they are not alive and will never be alive.

And on and on it goes...

Which means what the real world? What are we supposed to see now or in the near-future? I assume you've been saying all of this stuff since at least the launch of ChatGPT. Probably longer than that.

nothing

meaningless

narcissistic

wank

Cool insults. But my lying eyes and ears still say that AI knows me pretty well and is bringing plenty of value to my life.

a real problem

Like him not getting his way? If you don't want to use AI, then don't. But I'll use it whenever I want, thank you very much.

Well, in another comment he said that LLMs haven't improved in 3 years. So this puts him at Llama 1 7B.

Show me on the anatomical prop where the magical "real reasoning" gland is.

You are criticizing a Fields Medalist for consulting with another mathematician.

And I'm not inclined to entertain this nonsense, not even as a hypothetical. I'm not giving up on my most basic and fundamental rights, doubly so when these draconian restrictions won't apply to the people who want to impose them.

Journal articles are sometimes years behind. There are still papers coming out that use GPT-3.5 (!) for their main result. These days I'm basically only reading arXiv preprints (and whatever is trending on GitHub).

Sounds good! Surprised it took 'em this long.

You can stop soliciting.

He even brought out his alt.

The amount of mathematical structures and transformations you can apply (the possible rules) is effectively infinite. Simply remembering the rules might work at first, but you'll soon run into the combinatorial explosion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_explosion

You could go a step further, and simply say "well, ok, then the LLMs are merely doing some form of incremental/heuristic search!". Yes, but at that point you'd also be hard-pressed to claim that humans themselves are doing anything beyond that. You run out of naturalistic explanations.

Not interested, go away.

until we coerce the more repugnant parts of society

I noticed. Shoo, troll.