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Aibro gets a glimpse at class consciousness for half a second before admitting they are part of the problem and then carrying on.

As an open source - community driven project? Have you looked at the repo on github?

Theres thousands of PRs from claude agents or whatever.

Yeah really feels like a worthwhile place to contribute lol.

Lol your country and your capitalism helped build China.

Wasn't that the thing like ~30 years ago? All the western companies pushing manufacturing into China for increased profit?

Capitalism and the west gave all that power away :), you deindustrialised yourselves.

An llm doesnt 'prefer' to use anything.

Whats different to the effects system just being a type system?

Isnt a function that opens a particular file still just a type? Perhaps dependent?

Reminds me of mercury which has determinism of the function like type signatures.

Children are more vulnerable and more easily influenced, and so are easily swept up by a new technology being rolled out non-consensually society wide, much like social media ~20 years ago.

You mean the Overton window or whatever has drifted right.

Nationalism is a right wing concept.

But why does a particular execution model matter?

elixir/erlang gets compiled into beam byte code. It's a vm. why does this matter..

A theory is something you can test, model, write proofs, do calculations, eg quantum field theory, group theory.

Simulation "theory" isnt a theory its a conjecture.

Theres no meat to it.

Ive seen HN been filled with plenty of vitrol and hatred. Dang etc does clean it up mostly, but its still often here behind a veneer. Ive also seen really good opinions and ideas. It isnt black and white.

And no I dont think that generally, but it just seems like so many tech people here have been kinda mid/upper class/well off. I think a core issue around AI, around a new technology, is the class/capitalism issue, because that is the system we are stuck in.

But maybe some also havent quite connected the dots, and are starting to wake up to the reality of the situation.

It probably also gets astroturfed.

I wonder if all the commits which involve adding tons more test are the basis for a rewrite in rust anthropic marketing event

Probably not the best way to reduce complicated feelings.

Do those people not deserve to be able to live and survive or are they all just replaceable?

Probably better to not simply reduce it by just saying X is Y then if it has all that extra complexity and capacity.

Its divided because its the first time the previously more class unaware techbros have been critically challenged by the consequences of their actions - oh shit we might lose our jobs.

10 years ago "Disrupting X" was seen as a good thing. Now its come for them its a different story.

Technology is not some pure thing detached from emotions, society, feelings, and consequences.

Code isn't just a means to an end for a lot of people.

More people are now realizing that society has no protections around losing your job - what little power they had is going to be stripped away. Or its going to be used to reduce their power - you know have to work more bc you can use ai to do it! Ive already seen this.

Sure ai in a vacuum is a really interesting thing, oh its cool it can produce code or whatever. The underlying issue however is capitalism.

Their planet exploded though

There is kind of a spec - its capture knowledge work / thought so they can sell it back to you. Just how uber captured delivery/taxi making it all cheap and subsidised to start with the goal is to embed it everywhere and make people dependent. And then maybe some hope in the future they no longer have to pay anyone, or maybe pay people far less and devalue them.

How could it possibly be open source if it requires proprietary models developed by a few companies to writs the code.

Seems like that would make open source entirely controlled by open ai, anthropic et al.

Disagree

It is consent - and its a pattern ubiquitous in tech.

Idk a random model being part of the software is not a given as much as things are trying to be pushed.

I feel sorry for the recipient.

lol, your current president and congress dont seem to be following your own laws.

I just took it to mean is this more blue or green rather than literally blue or green. Correct answer is then 180, anything else is clearly a fail :)

From reading assume they mean wavelength of ~ visible light.

I too would like a microwave or gamma laser

Of course there are different levels of violence. One person inciting hate online is different to bombing a country back to the stone age, but they are both violent. No a traffic offense shouldn't get you assaulted.

But big ceo or president shouldn't necessarily be surprised about consequences to say it bluntly, and to tie it back to our original point, its funny its such an issue now to dang and others here.

Its like suddenly an issue when that violence is directed at someone who does have a lot of power rather than the other way around.

I feel you could argue denying health claims is violent, its intending to cause harm - there is a choice there.

It's kinda wild - It's now only publicly objectionable when its against an extremely privileged and powerful person??

Oh no !! /s

Meanwhile that same person implicitly condones violence - for example getting in bed with the US gov.

They don't need defending on HN.

Tech and science are political .. they don't exist in some sort of vacuum.

Further being "apolotical" means supporting the current status quo.

Consider some more examples: trump or that other conservative figure getting shot. Or the ceo of the health company getting shot.

Both of those people condone(d), support, amplify and drive horrific violence.

A common liberal reaction to those incidents - "oh no violence isn't okay!!" - well where were you for all the other horrific things they did and said? Yes in some ideal world there perhaps wouldn't be violence - but I can understand people feeling like they had it coming. It's the boy who cried wolf. It's the bully getting their comeuppance. It can be hard to feel bad.

Sama also talks about wanting ai to be the future, its pushed everywhere and the feeling is its going to take peoples jobs and disrupt everything. But there's no discussion about how we are going to look after everyone in that future. Current capitalistic (american) society doesn't seem built for that ... that lack of care already exists for a lot of people too who are homeless, poor etc.

Being upset about samas front gate getting firebombed while they probably also had plenty of security .. well idk.

Well I'm not saying they don't get moderated eventually .. but the thread in reference

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47659135

There was horrific racism on display right here. Perhaps it just seems part of the background noise to you .. but at the time, some of those posts felt just as bad as calls to violence or worse.

But to compose something more substantial .. its probably all to much to neatly tie up in a single reply to a thread.

Not sure what world you have lived in for the past at least 10 years...

HN (and ycombinator) has implicitly enabled, dogwhistled, or pretended to ignore all sorts of hateful and violent rhetoric. Sometimes it hides behind a veneer of "curious conversation" but other times its disgustingly blatant - last article I saw about sama was filled with horrific racism.

I come here because there are sometimes good posts, but this stuff has been here the entire time. Now its your guy getting the hate you are acting like its the worst thing in the world?

Frankly people calling out a post from a billionaire is a good thing. You would have to be terminally detached from reality to not see how all these festering issues - wealth inequality, injustice, cost of living, future employment etc etc - are starting to come to a head which would cause people to feel something - frustrated, angry, wrathful.

Yes