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He'll probably get it. He shouldn't, but he likely will.

It's more profitable to eliminate employee costs than make new products. There's a reason layoffs make stock prices soar far more than product announcements.

No, we won't do the same, but enough people will that it doesn't matter. Such is the way it goes.

Yeah. Her kids will be fine with generational wealth. Everyone else's - not so much.

This is the problem in a nutshell - people are happy to do things they know are harmful for personal profit.

And who knows how much of that "unavoidable future" "adapt or die" rhetoric is driven by motivated actors using LLM tools to shape the conversation?

Clearly not a bubble, though!

At least I'm sure LLM tools deploying code to production won't result in this happening more frequently. "Make sure it's secure. Make no mistakes."

And you have evidence as basis for this very confident statement... where?

That ship left port like 30 years ago dude. Laborers have no power in the 21st century.

Maybe we should fix that.

It's possible to use tools responsibly and effectively. It's also possible to encourage and mentor employees to do that.

It's not in the company's interest to stop employees from overworking. Having people overwork for the same pay under pressure is the desired outcome, actually.

I'm more upset about the large group of people in the startup industry, possibly even a majority, who would be totally happy about countries slipping into fascism if they made a little more money along the way.

Who cares about ethics and morality? Those aren't profitable!

Who needs to garbage collect? Just leak memory until the system dies! That strategy seems to be good enough for claude code, anyway.

Oh hey, we've reached the "Metal" stage! https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

Legal? probably. Ethical? Absolutely not.

While I used to agree with you, based on the most recent polling, Gen X and Gen Z are both farther right than Boomers are these days. So we're fucked long term too.

A particular interaction I had comes to mind. A user here boldly and openly proclaimed he discriminated in interviews against people that look different from him, or that are neurodivergent. Actual illegal behaviour that will get you sued in many countries. I reacted strongly and my post got flagged and I received a comment from the moderation team.

This is the "moderate discourse" problem, where you can express horrendous opinions as long as you are polite, and anyone who reacts emotionally gets criticized instead. You are required to engage these arguments in a detached, logical way as though they have equal intellectual merit, while they advocate for your suffering. This is also why places that enforce moderate discourse tend to become populated with polite fascists.

I'm not sure saying "I don't care if we do fascism as long as it makes me money" is any more morally defensible.

Silicon Valley was full of founders who genuinely wanted to use technology to make the world a better place

No, it wasn't, it was full of people who said they wanted to use technology to make the world a better place because saying you would use technology to make the world a better place was viewed as the path to investment and success.

Now, as soon as feigned empathy is no longer required for $$$, the mask comes off. It was never about anything other than profit.

Exactly. Declaring that there must be no discussion when confronted with situations in which one party is doing harm to others, is an implicit endorsement of the harms being perpetuated.

It's a privilege that many people working in tech have, who then create and populate forums where discussion of that privilege is considered political and therefore forbidden.

It's a "biological fact" that women are less interested in technology?

Are there public examples of "good instruction" and an iteration process? I have tried and have not been very successful at getting Claude Code to generate correct code for medium sized projects or features.

Why can't "low end OEMs" release security updates?

While true, we really should be treating every single piece of external code as though it's malicious.

There's a lot of non-engineering people who are very happy to see someone else get unemployed by automation for a change. The people who formerly were automating others out of a job are getting a taste of their own medicine.

That would be accurate, if those immigrants could access benefits in order to be a drain on the government. They can't.

You're hardly safe on operating system platforms either. Look at the long history of Apple sherlocking independent vendors.

"nobody wants to go there anymore, it's too crowded"

And if companies collude together to all agree to use non-competes to depress salary (reminder that this has already occurred), what would you recommend?

I certainly didn't say anything akin to the recent racist tweets from another Doge staffer, no.

There's also a very large unspoken piece left out of your sentence, which is that they are an asset if taught and guided well. Do you think Musk is likely to do that, or to instead encourage careless "technically impressive and profitable" behavior without regard to ethics or morals?