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I understand that it may be viewed as unpleasant, but ultimately if you install a proxy on your end that the server does not like (say an ad-blocker), I don't think it would be fair for the server to say its suffering a MITM attack. Likewise, even if the client is not happy with the third party the server is requesting, it still doesn't make sense to call it a MITM, IMO.

Man in the middle attack typically implies an unwanted third party, which in this case is not true since Cloudfare is explicitly and voluntarily trusted by the host server. It wouldn't be all that different if the web server had the browserintegrity checks developed themselves.

I was speaking somewhat hypothetically, as for now I would agree that it's tenuous at best to call self driving cars safer. My point was more that even if they were provably safer, people would have ego problems in claiming they are more dangerous than self driving cars.

Even the majority of people who are so called bad drivers have killed zero people, and no one is going to call themselves a bad driver, fewer are going to admit an AI is better at them (even if it's statistically true).