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Great stuff

I found the bundle scripts already prefer VULKAN_SDK/VULKAN_SDK_ROOT, but the build script only scans ~/VulkanSDK

If you want decentralized you need freedom in clients.

There are a lot of pretty good nostr clients: Primal, Amethyst, X21.social, Yakihonne, Nostrudel, Jumble. And most of them are OSS

Two things reading this post:

* i'd love to hear a sample/customer call. Even if it's just a test

* a blog without rss? How can i subscribe for part 2?

Cool stuff. You should make it OSS and ask a one time fee for it. I would run it on my own infra but pay you once(.com)

tmux too.

Trying workmux with claude. Really cool combo

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Same point as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46282964

Disagree though, people manage keys just fine, or they can be thought.

But even if there are people in the world that never get it, it could be outsourced to a central identity provider that manages your key and messages. For the end user they would have a user/password combo they can reset.

If the network becomes more popular someone will definitely build something like that.

The technical capabilities (remote signers, bunkers, ...) already exist

Incorrect.

Everyone can announce to the network where they read/write from. Clients can figure out (based on the people you follow) from which relays to get the content.

I've been using it like this for nearly a year. It works

Key difference is that is one relay author becomes "oligarchical" the notes just route around that (through different relays).

It doesn't work like that.

Your followers fetch the note from your relays. You tell the network where they can find your notes (self hosted relay) and their client will take the effort to find your content

I'm building a Nostr app (+- 2mio notes). There is a lot of spam and much worse content.

But it's kinda a solved problem (not through PoW) but through Web of Trust and not having algorithms. You see what the people/communities you follow post.

I tried Nostr but like a lot of people here have been saying, it falls short in many ways due to the way it is structured. Relays are not really relays, they are more but also less. They are like community servers. Sure you can connect to many, have the same UI, but they are still disjoint and feels lonely.

I'd like to know more. Imho the fact that relays are dumb is a feature.

You keep saying you can sign your messages and there is value there to people who are saying it is censorable in the ways they described.

All messages are signed. There is no way NOT to sign a message. This comes with the advantage that you don't need to trust the relays/pipes where messages go through which is an immense benefit

This is not a personal thing, I want to like Nostr and I tried using it. I can and would probably get some use out of using it as a pubsub or message delivery infrastructure for two things I want to connect but what if the relay goes down? It is like a centralized pubsub messagebox thing. But can't even do that fully.

Relays go down all the time. There was an experiment where a major relay (Damus) just deleted the entire dataset. People barely noticed. And as any client (not just the author) and other relays can re-broadcast events the relay eventually recovers.

There needs to be some sort of relay to relay communication (actual relaying) that needs to go on. And that wouldn't scale, even if it would work for now.

There are three mechanisms that do that:

- clients posts to multiple relays - clients/followers can rebroadcast notes (to other relays) - quite a few relays are syncing (negentropy sync)

I'm building a Q&A/community on top of Nostr and using those same concepts:

Original Author posts a kind:1 note with a question

A bot sends a kind:1985 note (NIP-32 https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/32.md) that labels the content.

It can be done by the author (self-label), by an app, or by third parties (moderators/curators), depending on the trust model.

Other clients can decide to use that classification/label

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For moderation purposes. If the behavior is closer to abuse (spam, scams, harassment...), use NIP-56 (Reporting). Reporting harmful/should-be-moderated content.

It's actually advised to use 3/4 relays in your clients

Using NIP-65 (https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/65.md) you can broadcast a note to the network to mention your preferred relays.

Most clients fetch that note when you first sign in and make sure you connect to your preferred relays

Nostr is a place where we're trying to make that happen.

3rd parties can still come in and try to offer value. But they can not sit between your interactions as clients are interchangeable

The problem is that StackOverflow can rug-pull you (and the community) at any time.

Things that come to mind:

- adding 'account required' screens so information is harder to access

- harvesting/selling that ip without your explicit consent (although you agreed in the TCs)

I'm working on an alternative for Quora/StackOverflow. It's everything i like about those two platforms but without the lock-in/giving them all intellectual property rights.

Main idea:

- Portable identity - Your data/posts/reputation is yours - Client choice: Use any nostr client to reply from/to - Open ranking/Anti-Spam: Web-Of-Trust/Global pagerank - Zaps/Payments weigh more than likes (likes are cheap)

There is no single approach as no central moderation exists. That's a feature.

So it's to relay operators in combination with WoT (web of trust) on the client (and sometimes relays)

This has been discussed/answered in other Nostr thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45300004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45299986

Here is the Network Implementation Proposal for POW (https://nips.nostr.com/13)

Identity on nostr is just a public/private keypair.

You can enhance that identity by sending a kind0 (metadata) note with your name, bio, pictures. So i guess you're suggestion to add PoW for kind0 events which is covered by NIP13 too.

This is happening today.

The answer is trusted relays and Web of Trust

Long-time nostr user. My feeds are all spam free. Not to say there aren't any other problems :-)

My approach for bringing them down is working on better systems/UX than what the closed-silos currently offer...And we have a long way to go.

But...Nostr (and other decentralised social media protocols) can offer things the existing platforms can not do: interoperability.

Imagine the people you follow to be the same from FB, to strava, to spotify... Imagine the content (signed notes) you make are available on different clients/platforms

That UX, perhaps for use-cases and projects we can't imagine today will be so much better than what we have today. I've tasted a little bit of just that switching between my Nostr twitter-like client (Primal/Yakihonne) and the Podcast app (foundtain.fm). It blew my mind.

This opens use cases the existing platforms can only dream about.

Discoverability is a huge challenge in any decentralized social protocol.

We've been talking a lot about this problem in nostr which can't be summarised in a quick HN comment but gathered some threads if you're really interested

https://asknostr.site/question/note1es989rjaccw82gpp705u462y... https://asknostr.site/question/note12dp9ewpngxejq8w9s6699k5z... https://asknostr.site/question/note1cp5cw366g7q9c2txvtrws0h7... https://asknostr.site/question/note1zqjk556quu6rvyetzvhdv7p3... https://asknostr.site/question/note1ss842g38wafwcfexd78gx0sc...

It works but requires technical knowledge. I zap (on nostr) every day

I think this is a real problem of "an open network". Disgusting people will find the network and abuse it.

There is a very insightful thread on nostr about it -> https://asknostr.site/question/note1lhvk3kkmaev6qzlpzzns69vw...

The top voted answer was

Relays have to become more whitelisted and less open, and clients have to implement outbox model and stop relying on 2 or 3 big relays, then we can just stop worrying about this.

I send this video to people a lot when they ask me to learn about nostr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur20vi40NYY

Nice way of phrasing it :-)

There is Frost Key Rotation and/or Key bunkers

https://asknostr.site/question/note1534t79a5nk8ajcx8xqlsa3pr...

But it's still early and not all clients support it.

As a 1 year nostr user i can relate to this sentiment. Most conversations today are either about crypto or about (building) nostr.

My guess is that the better the network becomes the more that specific content will take a backseat

I've been working on a Quora/StackOverflow alternative (on top of Nostr).

https://asknostr.site/

I hope this demonstrates how a distributed social protocol can solve many use cases and the advantage to the end-user:

- do not get rugpulled by (VC backed) companies that own your data

- receive zaps/money by contributing

- data is truely available to everyone (but signed by author)