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As others have said, management (in my experience) never has the full picture, it has its own perspective.

I'm curious about the breach of trust you feel -- surely investors in a company don't relinquish their values or place unconditional trust in the company? The Kapors are not a PE firm, and their ethical stands have been known for decades.

You can't on the one hand benefit from the brand value of investors like Mitch & Freida and not also expect such stakeholders to also expect a certain caliber of behavior by the company.

I think investors in a startup are forgiving of early missteps. Uber is way, way past that stage.

This was done in partnership with the Internet Archive folks -- they _want_ the traffic, in part because this helps people know about the Archive, but mostly because this is a public benefit feature, which is what non-profits strive to provide.

As to the amount of traffic it generates, that's one reason why we're doing this through Test Pilot -- we can dial that up or down.

Donate mozilla 11 years ago

MDN is powered by Corp staff but also a large # of awesome volunteer contributors.

Correct. (note: I believe none of our users have asked that ;-), but I appreciate that HN cares about that.

Hey all --

David Ascher here, from Mozilla.

Thanks for the interest. We'll put up a technical write-up of Webmaker soon, we've been busy getting the app ready.

As to some of the questions already asked:

This is an open source project (both the Android wrapper, the web app and the backends powering the APIs). Repos are here:

* https://github.com/mozilla/webmaker-android

* https://github.com/mozilla/webmaker-core

* https://github.com/mozilla/api.webmaker.org

When it comes to data privacy, remember that Webmaker is not a social network. It is an easy-to-use publishing platform for people whose only internet access may be from a low-end Android phone. We don't ask for or store real names to create user accounts.

All projects on the platform are publicly accessible/remixable under a CC-license (it's a free, no-ad app -- all we ask from our users is that they contribute to the commons). We currently store all user data on Amazon RDS.

You may be interested in some of the user research we did as part of this project as well:

* http://mzl.la/india

* http://mzl.la/bangladesh

* http://mzl.la/kenya

* http://mzl.la/research

Hi there. David Ascher here, from Mozilla.

* No Real Names requirement. * I think we have a single account per email address, but I don't think that's what you mean. Also, you can likely use +whatever on your email addresses if you really want to.

As to centralization -- I'm as worried about centralization of the net as Brewster Kahle, but that's as yet an unsolved problem, and not the one we're tackling with Webmaker. We're (just?) trying to make an app that makes it easy for people new to the internet to see that they can create web content, not just consume it, even if all they have is a low-end android phone and low literacy. The app storage architecture is centralized today, but I'd be happy to explore ways to federate it, once we get to the point where it we've confirmed the app is attractive to its main audience.

TLDR: Sorry, this isn't the droid you're looking for =)

Crawling is certainly a complementary data collection strategy, but it's harder to avoid IP-based "filter bubble" effects w/out also deploying something akin to a bot. The hope is that by using real people using real browsers we'll collect data that reflects actual-behavior-in-the-wild.

You're right that poisoning is a potential problem if/when the data ends up useful enough to warrant poisoning.

Appmaker 13 years ago

Thanks, great set of feedback. A bunch of these need to find their ways into our issues list!

Appmaker 13 years ago

True, but most of all we value working in the open so that we can both do user testing and find people who might want to contribute. In my book our mistake was not to prioritze issues 306 and 386 until we showed up on HN. Oh well!

Appmaker 13 years ago

I love this comment. "Get it working". Roger wilco!

Appmaker 13 years ago

Ha. It's intended to look like a FirefoxOS phone if anything =)

Appmaker 13 years ago

Indeed, we're inspired by AppInventor. We're aiming at higher level components and a more simplistic model.

Appmaker 13 years ago

Indeed, we have a weird intermittent failure on component loading that we haven't figured out yet. A few reloads tends to work, as a temporary workaround.