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I was born dual US/Brazil and left Brazil just after turning 18 about 36 years ago, wondering wondering whether I'm in the leak and whether anyone could use my info to open illicit bank accounts, etc. I don't want to be associated with money-laundering, and am too far in headspace from financial-institutions/credit-bureaus to check it out.

So, to describe situation further ...

The dot-com bust and post-9/11 biz environment were not friendly to most startups and not friendly to big hard-to-implement ideas, and the startup company was rescued in 2002 or 2003 by a sideline project (largely not using the IP in the patents) in which a large I.T./storage company saw value. The large company acquired the startup.

The 10 patent applications, in the mean time, were not maintained or perhaps not novel enough to all merit patents -- though I doubt the "not novel enough" part -- I've seen stupid patents awarded for much less innovation, and I haven't yet seen the system the patents deal with implemented or sold. So ... I think there's huge value in the ideas behind the patent applications. The patent applications all lapsed around 2007 or before, I believe because they were peripheral to large company's business and nobody realized what they had in hand.

The ideas and system behind the patents only grow more relevant each passing year.

So what I see right now:

    * an idea-kernel that would be the excellent
      basis for a new startup
    * good documented prior-art (in the form of the
      lapsed patent applications) that probably are
      decent enough to defend against patent trolls
    * I'm at the point in my professional career
      where I want to pursue these ideas
    * >>> the fact that if I were any other person,
      with no prior association with the former
      startup or acquiring large company, coming
      across these lapsed patents, I could implement
      them unencumbered and have good protection
      (though I could not prevent others from
      implementing the same)
    * >>> since I worked on the original IP ...
      I might have some obligation to the "acquiring
      large company", though they likely would care
      only if I were to (a) be extremely successful;
      or (b) use the lapsed patent applications as
      defense in a patent lawsuit
I should probably discuss with an I.P. lawyer ...

... but my inclination is to:

    * build a prototype
    * talk to potential investors and potential customers
    * engage a patent lawyer to discuss possible
      licensing arrangements (or outright permission)
      to work on the I.P. with "large acquiring co"
    * hope for the best
Any suggestions?

This is so true. I worked for a small-time compliance software vendor where the domain expert was an incoherent mess (with all the buzzwords thrown in), the CEO couldn't discuss the software intelligibly, and the VP Engineering presented a demo video loop at a trade show booth showing theirself entering the company AWS credentials in clearly legible form.

The place had so many dysfunctions I'd not know how to start. I work for a much more professional outfit now with true appreciation for security and competence.

edit: there's a real gap in this non-glamorous compliance domain. if you address it and need to execute SCAP (OVAL, XCCDF) content, look to a very competent scanner vendor, jOVAL. The real challenges are in organizing and presenting consistent info across many compliance standards, OSs, cloud vendors, etc. ... and to scan entities that aren't OSs per se, and to analyze cross-domain conditions.

I work at a podunk Santa Clara, CA startup

20+ years experience. Working remote from southeast U.S.A.

Tenure so far: 2.5 years

Salary: $150K

Stock: purportedly .75% of company 4 years 1-year cliff, with small follow-on grant later, don't know what recent dilution is, though I think more recent funding has been "debt" at low interest with preference

Not a regular VC situation, company funded through other means.

Outlook -- real uncertain, market has definite need, execution so far has been very mixed, company willing to re-do things the right way

I work at a podunk Santa Clara, CA startup. 20+ years experience. Working remote from southeast U.S.A.

Tenure so far: 2.5 years

Salary: $150K

Stock: purportedly .75% of company 4 years 1-year cliff, with small follow-on grant later, don't know what recent dilution is, though I think more recent funding has been "debt" at low interest with preference

Not a regular VC situation, company funded through other means.

Outlook -- real uncertain, market has definite need, execution so far has been very mixed, company willing to re-do things the right way

On the way-later side of 30!

The current company is legacy-land as far as development tools goes (though they're reliable and in the right hands do very well). The prospective startup would involve new tools I need to "keep up-to-date".

I did a short (paid) project for them involving some popular scripting significantly-hipper-than-Perl language and delivered it in serviceable, idiomatic form that I know they were very happy with, using all the right libraries. I picked it up the tool/language quickly enough. I feel I need that experience and exposure to maintain my longevity in the SW market. Sticking with the current company is 2 more years I become more of a dinosaur.

Their vision is great. They don't do rocket-science and they're not involved in social. Their market is positively boring, and it's something everyone needs, and nobody seems to have updated software addressing this market. Their approach requires a good core and also a lot of reliable peripheral development. I don't think there are any technical misgivings on their part toward me (I've proven my ability, programming-, vision-, and communication-wise), and I like working with them. I'm not sure we can settle on anything after the lowball though ... it betrays their lack of respect for the position or else for engineers.

Thing is, three previous startups turned out not-so-bad (net positive) for me. Not home runs, but they made a material difference. I also like the small-company environment and challenges -- but perhaps that's only because I have worked only in startups. I look at "HN Who's Hiring" posts by outfits like Walmart Labs and wonder what the difference would be.

Also, I'd be leaving a job I really don't like at a Silicon Valley spinoff. $150K salary, 0.75% equity, shiny CEO with regular Fox-Business-News appearances, rising company notoriety, selling into a hot market. The company will never raise more "venture" funding, the parent will structure future injections as debt (at a reasonable interest rate, likely, but probably less onerous than VC).

This current company has a highly dysfunctional development culture, no automated testing, poor choice of deployment vehicle, a VP high on the DK spectrum. I can't bear it.

The place has a very high likelihood of acquisition in the next 2 years. It's a question of how long product dev can go on before the product implodes vs how quickly the shiny CEO can attract a good buyer for the polished turd. I lose a bit of my soul every day.