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Society made religion optional through scientific inquiry. It can make America optional too as no theory of science suggests it’s existence is immutable law.

It’s going to be a real adjustment for you to accept a lot of people are without sufficient this or that in our society and you’re not really going to bat for them.

You have freedom to choose without coercion. Nothing makes your sensibilities sacrosanct to anyone else.

Got you, fam: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59577162

But are they? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-fa...

I wasn’t boosting past software. Doing so would be banal nostalgia.

I’m saying the doing matters, not the software; we throw it away and regenerate it all the time. It’s disposable ephemera.

It’s literally just the creative process that matters.

Maybe it’s a bit literal but I see lots of people at computers planning updating just like I did 20 years ago.

From the IT workers context a lot has changed but the end user outputs are still; video game, chat app, email app, todo app, fintech app, dating app, state management DSL.

AI isn’t going to change the outputs so much as minimize the people and code needed to generate them. Because we’ve mined the value prop of desktops and phones to death.

Materials science, additive manufacturing, biology, are outputting actual net new knowledge. Consumer facing IT is whittling a log into a chair leg, grabbing a new log, whittling a chair leg… but faster!

Apple employees have the freedom to create without coercion. You would need to lobby to change law, not preach to the choir here.

That’s what Spotify and Musk are doing; trying to manipulate public perception to influence politicians.

The problem they have is Apple is the crown jewel of US tech corps. Spotify is not and politicians are well aware Musk is a poser with money. Epic, Spotify, like Jobs once said, sell features not products.

Gabe Newell has called generative content “an extinction level event” for traditional media producers and distributors. Epic and Spotify are an AI breakthrough away from irrelevance. Why listen to them except as anything but an appeal to rapidly outdated economic traditions?

They can join the protest rotary phone makers, and horse and buggy businesses are pulling together.

I agree with your analysis of how I see things.

I disagree that I am “caught up” on anything.

I have a preference that’s been refined over time. Not a psychological error in perception.

If you stick to arbitrary software industry definitions. As a hardware engineer first, it’s all “monolith of electron state” to me.

Agreed. My point is I am not going to see a marketer as aiming for the same goal “as an experimental physicist.”

To borrow the Lindy effect; whether someone likes the jacket in color A or B is of such short lived value it’s a huge waste of the resources that went into the pipeline needed to come to the conclusion.

Here’s an A/B test; rethink logistics to increase customization of outputs or continue to create design jobs who define what’s trendy and acceptable?

Advertisers and marketers use the equations but measure contemporary trends.

Science is more “what’s true if humans didn’t exist.”

Marketing is more “what widget generates more revenue?”

People will either intentionally sacrifice to slow climate change or destroy itself.

Neoliberal society will come to an end one way or another.

Right; it came about as experiments suggested something actually did exist.

It’s not the same kind of gibberish “mechanical flight is impossible” ended up being.

They didn’t predict global warming. They measured directly industrial emission accumulation and predicted an impact on human health.

Global warming is a colloquialism. The researchers did the science that gives rise to it.

Luminiferous Aether is just another name for electromagnetic field effects. Which do literally exist but our written logic works out better if we talk around it as an idea not a thing.

You’re just arguing semantics to look smurt. Qualitative ideas like survivorship bias are relative in when they apply.

Extensive dependency chain of brittle logic that needs tons of planning and preparation to update and manage is not unreasonable description for microservices architecture from an ops perspective.

Sure generated book sales, crowning of thought leaders, and busy work to soak up easy money for anyone paying attention.

So a code monolith I can just dump on a Linux box is in again?

Our figurative ideas, ephemera, seem to be in a loop of taking a simple mental model, branching it into a mess, feeling over extended, circling back to a simpler mental model, branching it into an over extended mess.

Monotheism versus polytheism, and dozens of flavors of a religion rooted in a central umbrella idea.

Nation states allow creating over leveraged branches of economic Ponzi schemes.

And we’re all certain this is net new and never before seen of humans because the labels are all different!

What’s ludicrous is the idea they can close up shop altogether in the US and 300 million plus will just sit on their hands and do nothing.

Twice as many guns as people over here. The public will make a new economy without them. Real people don’t just vanish because aristocrats find their demands inconvenient.

Let them eat lead will quickly follow any contemporary version of “let them eat cake.”

Physical reality does not bend to our philosophy. Philosophy always bends to reality.

I know people prefer to forget reality because ew it’s dirty, but reality doesn’t bend to ape hallucinations.

Your ISP and mobile provider still know :) your gadgets have registered IDs in the hardware.

Every mechanical thing we come up has a decode-able sequence.

DIY filter bubbles each of a unique configuration, decoupled from someone else’s monolith is the only way to be sure.

It’s reverse Highlander; there cannot be only one. It’s fine, we were never all going to get along anyway.

Timezones and language barriers eat into the profits fast.

What’s with the idea though that 300 million people can just be ignored? Me thinks you’ve let yourself get lost in the economic philosophy and detached from reality.

There is no just shutting down the US economy because economists can’t make fiat currency math work. Such ideas are ludicrous.

Been thinking about this as well. Working on language native libs to react to eBPF telemetry and scale logic forks appropriately to avoid exhausting the host, motivated by disdain for Docker/k8s. I’d rather just import a dep and develop the behavior.

But I don’t have to time to write all that. So I have actually been writing helper scripts to generate object code and function signatures via ast libs.

This is how I originally “learned programming” in the 90s. The industry zeitgeist shifted to “churn out code” and all that wizardry was lost. I have no idea how to prove it but I sometimes think it was intentional to capture worker agency.

It’s been fun reconnecting to it but the ecosystem of helper tooling … well there is none. Tons of blogs with basics about for loops though.

A growing segment of our society is tired of serving cushy office workers.

I would not be so sure there isn’t a massive amount of potential energy among the public to put video game companies out of work and increase the pool of “essential workers”.

IMO software engineers should optimize for themselves by walking away from industry rather than give it ownership of their intellectual output to be wielded against them after code writing AI is trained against their work.

Y’all thought you were so smart but hubris often comes with the later realization the effort was used against them. If society can generate content without paying someone it will.

I was building packet schlepping hardware for Nortel from 99-02; I know “how the internet works”.

I was suggesting a change in social norms not technical.

There’s no reason I need all the engineering of Facebook to directly share with a few friends and family. And having seen one social site after another fill up with more noise than signal, there’s little value in engineering sorting algorithms that attempt to preserve context rummaging through it all looking for needles in haystacks (ML).

Feynman suggested modeling things literally is an inefficient path to discovery. Physicists achieved their best results dispensing with imagining the world as literal pulleys and levers and weights. We don’t need to literally model how to sort it all, just the right amount to assist others.

Software engineers need to pivot from sorting stupid meme posts and put those brains on truly interesting ideas: https://youtu.be/ZSddchIGNG0

I am reciting my own inner monologue reminding myself we’re each just one of billions, nothing special. None of my posts address anyone else specifically at all.

Qualified truth is relative. This is all generic language. You’re hardly saying anything novel. You’re no further beyond the edge of human understanding than I am.

You see it as I “played myself” I see it as you’re another meat bag over stimulated by their own awareness.

Who asked you to provide for the world? I never did.

From my reference frame you’re one of the NPCs

That’s your reductive view of the public. I don’t think they’re dimwitted NPCs, but being treated disingenuously by people who think they’re NPCs.

The public is very aware they don’t deference to any particular individual. Musk, or you. At the end of the day twice as many guns as people in this country.

The indie web could easily exist via self host Docker from home and a central index to start for anyone that wants to peer.

Web apps are not programming but dependency management these days.

Making a private tribal bubble online is easier than ever. ooh he said the quiet part out loud

Yeah I mean the public could not logon for a day to send a message too. I mean that as a euphemism for broader ideas I won’t elaborate on. But let Musk do it, we don’t want that responsibility.

Social media either makes it clear the general public is of immense restraint or too confused to know they don’t really owe carrying around in their heads any of this gibberish and could set aside the assigned work queues and focus on the ignored ones, like infra and healthcare. The government will respond to a populace with twice as many guns as people in a hurry at the slightest whiff of public comity.

Please save us, Musk! … the great white savior complex. Still seeking a high minded savior suggests confused by all the gibberish and noise which is intentional but often ends up being uncontrollable. The code gets deciphered and the old masters get outplayed at their own game. Gen Z grew up digesting this gibberish. I’m hopeful they’re inoculated against it.

Elon Musk’s existence does not give rise to reality. The knowledge and ability to do these things is not his alone as clearly he relies on a lot of workers.

If society should really do these things is not for him to dictate via Twitter.

It used to cost X to run corp A, now it costs Y, where Y is Z times higher than X.

Millions to billions in this case.

Don’t forget to add in the cost of social programs their employees rely on given the abysmal pay in order to keep your numbers down.

It would require Apple engineer for the use case, and opens them to legal risk in our society.

So the freedom angle to them is they don’t have to schedule the meetings and be compelled to speak the questions and answers to output what you want, or open themselves to repercussions of a hack in a stack that would never be there if they’d not built it.

Because computers are also real resources they’re making devices for a broader audience than computer hackers. The hobbyist hardware scene has a questionable set of ethics given the long term impact of meeting hobbyist demands to consume whatever number of widgets they want, but that’s another thread.

If you’re arguing for an open boot loader, I’m here for it, but you’re going to need to change law to force it; they can freely stick to their choices. Posting grievances such as yours; we’re not oblivious as you seem to believe but HN is not a forum of real influence, preaching to the choir is not influencing anyone that needs to be influenced.

But iOS is a result of workers speaking free of coercion. If the output is not up to your expectations… I dunno what to say except other people don’t have to put you first, you know? Freedom equals tribalism. It’s a demand of freedom to allow tribalism not one size fits all literalism. deal with it gif