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Not sure if counting HTML, but it was my gateway to programming at the age of ~10-12. I found out I could make web pages in Word, then switched to FrontPage and learned HTML by watching and tweaking the code generated by the WYSIWYG editor. Good times!

Unrelated; but I always find myself drawn to game development, yet I have no desire to work in the industry. Does any other programmer feel the same, and do you know why?

How valuable is that legally? If my bot is scraping that automatically, have I then agreed to that?

I don't think luminous really compares to rails/django. Luminus is more like a great starting point, with some boilerplate and glue between libraries, while rails/django is way more batteries included.

I used notepad when I first started learning PHP.

I've always thought that hiring i.e. haskell developers would be easier than for more widely used languages like java and python as I've assumed that the talent-to-jobs ratio would be a lot higher. I actually have no idea though.

And what's up with the highlighting of (to me) seemingly random characters?

For SPAs, I mostly use ClojureScript with reagent and re-frame nowadays.

Reagent is a ClojureScript wrapper for react, and re-frame is a library for state management, where you dispatch events kind of like in redux.

It's most productive and intuitive environment I've come across. Very little boilerplate. I haven't tried serverside rendering with it though.

There's also re-natal if you want to use react-native, but I haven't tried this either, so I can't vouch for it.

I know Python, Clojure, C#, Java and to some extent (not so modern) C++. Python and Clojure is what I use on a daily basis.

I'd love to learn Haskell, and I've actually started, but I've come to the realization that I should focus more on CS fundamentals instead of just hoarding languages.

Agreed! I started learning Clojure about 2 years ago, and it has become my favorite language!

The biggest complaint I have is about the error messages (and the laaaarge stack trace), but I've heard they are working on it.

Finishing something, I have so many scrapped projects it's embarrassing

Sorry about that, I'll keep it in mind for the future :)

The math seems to be a bit off

$860B / 5000000 people (2013, wikipedia) = $172000

React made frontend much more enjoyale to me too, it's so quick to build nice things in it :)

It's my first project using clojurescript and reagent. Probably not the most common type of website posted on HN, lol, but I gave it a shot anyways.

Would greatly appreciate any feedback you got :)