I agree. I'm not anti-clean design, it has its place. Is just miss there being more range, especially when it comes to personal projects.
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Thanks for mentioning us! Let me know if you have any feedback or questions – I'm a co-founder.
Have a look at Nuclino (https://www.nuclino.com), essentially a real-time wiki for teams. We're eliminating modes the way you describe in order to speed up the workflow. It supports edit-in-place, changes are automatically saved and you can collaborate in real-time (like in Google Docs), but you also have core wiki features like easy linking and consistent styles.
I'm glad you like the UI. Unfortunately, making the entire wiki public is not possible at the moment due to our focus on teams and companies. They use it to share knowledge internally and explicitly don’t want to have it indexed and publicly accessible.
It could be interesting though to expand Nuclino for the use in communities in the future as a lot of requirements overlap.
We’re building the wiki engine https://www.nuclino.com based on Prosemirror. It would be great to get your feedback on it! I think a single editing mode is the way to go and Prosemirror's flexibility allows us to strike a great balance between usability for non-technical users (via menus) and speed for technical users (via markdown commands).
Thanks for the comment! We did not receive this feedback before, but we'll test it with more users and check if it makes sense to adjust or remove the animations.
Thanks a lot for the constructive feedback! We just released the pricing several weeks ago and are open to experimentation. Would you be up for a quick chat about this? If yes, just send me an email (it's in my profile).
We believe in what we do and so far we've not been able to find another product with the same focus that builds upon the same principles and ideas. Wanting Nuclino to exist and our passion to create it, is what drives us most. As for competition from established players, I wholeheartedly agree with the comment from davidjgraph. Every new startup faces this challenge, but history shows that it can be difficult for large companies to mimic the success of new products.
Even though we'd love to, we don't offer mobile apps yet. You can use Nuclino in a mobile browser, but it's not something we've been focusing on. As far as priorities go, we're currently focused on web and desktop first, but we'll release mobile apps eventually.
We'll definitely work on the contrast issue and test it on more screens! Happy to hear you like the look and feel of the product :)
Hi boyd, that's a good point. We're considering to add certain SSO providers like Google Suite to the basic plan and others like Active Directory to premium. Glad you like the table editor!
Thanks! That's great to hear.
There's no chat feature in Nuclino at the moment as most teams use it together with a chat tool like Slack. But we're planning to add some lightweight commenting soon.
Resizing a picture is not possible, but we're planning to add different size options like full-width vs. normal-width for each image. Would that solve what you're trying to achieve?
That is crazy! That must have been my girlfriend, can't wait to tell her. Greetings back from Germany :)
Glad you like it! Unfortunately we don't support importing from Trello yet. We offer a generic import for HTML and Markdown, so if you can get the data out of Trello that way you might be able to import it.
That's exactly the idea :) We don't want to impose structure before it actually becomes useful. That's also why the most basic elements are called "items", as their purpose can evolve into ideas, tasks, requirements, etc.
Currently it is possible to export a whole workspace in the Markdown format. The downloaded .zip file contains all exported items including attachments such as images and files in a separate folder.
We are also thinking about adding HTML as an export format if there is any interest. What format would you expect as an export option?
I'm sorry to hear that :( Do you prefer free trials, paid-only, or some other model?
Thanks Dryken! Inside a workspace there is currently only one level of nesting by using clusters. However, you can use internal links like in a wiki to create index pages that build the structure you need with arbitrarily deep nesting.
Generally, we're trying to keep the organisation flat as we've seen lots of teams struggle with deeply nested information, e.g. in the context of huge shared network drives. However, there are some cases where more nesting might be useful and we're already trying out some ways to address that.
Thanks for giving us a try! It would be awesome to hear more about your experience. If you're up for a quick chat, just send me an email.
Obviously I'm highly biased regarding a direct comparison, but here are some thoughts:
Overall we're trying to provide a simpler and faster experience. For example, our editor is just a single stream of content blocks, providing consistency and a fast editing experience. In Notion the editor has more complexity with adjustable multi-column layouts, page header images, etc. If you don't require those formatting options, I'd argue Nuclino is a better fit.
By providing different views on the same information, we also enable you to use Nuclino for different use cases. For example, the list view allows you to prioritize lots of items, the board view to track a workflow, and a graph view to explore information.
Thanks a lot for your thoughtful review! Here's some feedback:
* Great to hear you like the design and UI! Contrast is not easy to get right with all the different screens and layouts, but we'll improve this.
* Editing the item title in place is planned.
* The current behavior of the uncategorized items is intentional, but as you noted it's not ideal and we're currently working on ways to improve it.
* We're already experimenting with different approaches to the graph visualization like visualizing the links between items. Stay tuned :)
* We're planning to add versioning, which will allow you to retrace how the content evolved.
It would be very interesting to us if you come up with a specific reason. Don't hesitate to contact me directly :)
We're planning to add Google SSO which supports 2FA. Would that work for you?
Our main differentiators are simplicity, speed, and the fact that you only need a single tool (not counting Bitbucket here).
We've seen that many teams don't need all the features the Atlassian stack provides and happily trade it for a simpler, faster, and more unified experience.
Feel free to try it out and see if it works for you and your team :)
Thanks for the feedback! The free option is not visible to all visitors, only to your team. Private workspaces are meant for information which should not be accessible by the entire team. You have to be invited to a private workspace in order to view and edit the content. We'll try to explain this better on the pricing page!
Thanks for the kind words! The complexity of traditional wikis inspired us to build Nuclino. We definitely plan to keep the experience as smooth and simple as possible :)
Have you seen our product page (https://www.nuclino.com/product)? There are screenshots and a video tour :)
We started about one and a half years ago, but just recently released a major update introducing the board view and other essential features: https://blog.nuclino.com/the-new-nuclino
Thanks a lot for this hint, we’ll review it!
Thanks for the feedback! Definitely not planning to trick anybody, we’re just trying to keep the top navigation simple. We’re actually also considering moving the blog and support links to the footer. But we’ll keep an eye on it!
Thanks for the feedback! It actually sounds great the way you describe it, we’re definitely gonna test it.
Hi all! We're building Nuclino, a unified workspace for teams. Here's why you should check it out:
* You can replace several collaboration tools with Nuclino as it combines the best ideas from many! (e.g. the board from Trello, real-time editing from Google Docs, internal links from wikis)
* Real-time collaborative editor with markdown commands
* Visualize your data with different views such as lists, boards, and graphs
You can use it to plan and track sprints, collaborate on requirements, share ideas, goals and more.
It's been working out great for ourselves and our first users, but we'd love to get feedback from a wider audience. If you don't mind a couple rough edges and missing features, it would be awesome if you could check it out and tell us what you think!