Wait.. the Qwen Max models have never been open-weight. But it sure sound like that's what they intend now?
"Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon! With a massive 2.4T parameters..."
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Wait.. the Qwen Max models have never been open-weight. But it sure sound like that's what they intend now?
"Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon! With a massive 2.4T parameters..."
AGI is almost here, but first, one more thing... a keyboard controller!
Legislators, please require 10 seconds of load screen with a picture of a tree, for every online video. It worked for cigarette packs.
This is GLM 5.2 Max. GLM 5.2 High which use less than half[1] the tokens.
Qwen 27b is a compute heavy dense model.
Does this translate into a similar reduction in compute?
What's the catch?
equals 2 or 3 human brains in power usage. Amazing work!
It's fascinating that a $999 Mac Mini (M4 32GB) with almost similar wattage as a human brain gets us this far.
Is there any source for these claims?
A relief to see the Qwen team still publishing open weights, after the kneecapping [1] and departures of Junyang Lin and others [2]!
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47246746 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47249343
The timing is interesting as Apple supposedly will distill google models in the upcoming Siri update [1]. So maybe Gemma is a lower bound on what we can expect baked into iPhones.
Qwen: Hold my beer
Very impressive! I wonder if there is a similar path for Linux using system memory instead of SSD? Hell, maybe even a case for the return of some kind of ROMs of weights?
Better than frontier pelicans as of 2025
Most certainly not, but the Unsloth MLX fits 256GB.
Last Chinese new year we would not have predicted a Sonnet 4.5 level model that runs local and fast on a 2026 M5 Max MacBook Pro, but it's now a real possibility.
Exactly. The emperor has no clothes. The largest investments in US tech in history and yet there less than a year of moat. OpenAI or Anthropic will not be able to compete with Chinese server farms and so the US strategy is misplaced investments that will come home to roast.
And we will have Deepseek 4 in a few days...
Surely this is the elephant in the room, but the point here is that Apple as control over its ecosystem, so it may be able to sandbox and make entitlements and transparency good enough, in the apps that the bot can access.
People are running the previous Kimi K2 on 2 Mac Studios at 21tokens/s or 4 Macs at 30tokens/s. Its still premature, but not a completely crazy proposition for the near future, giving the rate of progress.
The other realistic setup is $20k, for a small company that needs a private AI for coding or other internal agentic use with two Mac Studios connected over thunderbolt 5 RMDA.
The "Deepseek moment" is just one year ago today!
Coincidence or not, let's just marvel for a second over this amount of magic/technology that's being given away for free... and how liberating and different this is than OpenAI and others that were closed to "protect us all".
What a time to be (still) alive.
When we look back in a few years and ask the question: who actually got to pay for the Epstein crimes and coverups, we come to the surprising answer it is the Greenlandes and other innocent societies that got ripped apart by this maniac and his supporters.
It's not a failure of IP6 but a failure of society.
We all thought the internet would become decentralized and that everyone should have an IP and a funky website. But instead social media took over, big tech and a few big discussion sites where we all must fit in a digital life and watch ads and share our data to become a good product for all the others to consume.
"The missile is too round at the top, it needs to be pointy. Round missiles are not scary"
- The Dictator
HN discussion 11 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46284658
Unfortunately, this will not happen. Even if they have it all working:
Above all, Apple wants to show that their hardware is awesome, especially because it really is. Running x86 games or compatibility layers even with great emulation will make that $3000 Mac look half decent at best, against a $1500 gaming laptop. Simply not the story Apple want to tell.
Two 512GB Mac Studios connected with thunderbolt 5.
I saw it too before clicking the second link!
"Wear an iPhone"... It's increasingly difficult to love this company.
Free speech is one of these things that is always used as a trojan for doing ultimate good.
Let us empower anybody to say anything they want AND enforce everybody to have to listen to it.
Anonymous free speech is not free speech. There is no accountability. It should not should not be a human right. Its destroying our societies. The evidence should be clear by now.