becomethrow

I dont think web is the best way to go for most people either, its certainly not what i would do, though it does seem easy on the surface, i suspect getting a junior webdev role involves more than knowing how to write a header and title in html and maybe a few css stylesheets.

What do you think about backend dev, or devops type roles? would you expect them to start in frontend and move towards backend as they get experience, or should they start out from scratch and jump into SQL and python/java/ruby?

Or would mobile development be the way to go? learn swift or java and jump into creating some popular app clones in your github?

I dont mean to disagree i was hoping you would expand a bit on how specifically to get into an embedded career

really? i often see people warning others to stay away from game development, as i often hear that it favors college grads and churns through they by pushing the boundaries of burnout and high expectations.

I do think that its partially because game dev is probably one of the more fun types of programming, and because of this the market has become flooded with people wanting to develop games.

As for embedded, is that something that someone with little funds is capable of doing on their own? are we talking about doing some arduino projects and then getting a junior embedded dev role? or what does that path look like?

With games its pretty straightforward at least, a single person could reasonably make a small game, and thats probably a reasonable basis on which hiring decisions could be influenced, but im not sure what the path for an embedded developer would be

Thanks for your input!

What would you suggest to people who arent going to enjoy programming? Trades like hvac/welding? would you recommend they get into the IT side? go back to school?

i often have people near me who are struggling financially ask for advice on how to get into an actual career - these are smart people who have fallen into and out of various lower skilled jobs like restaurants, call centers, secretarial roles, small auto repair shops, and the like. These are mostly people in their late 20s or early 30s who have college degrees in something less marketable (non-STEM).

Whats out there these days for intelligent people who are willing to work hard, and how do we get these people to these jobs?

for the trades, apprenticeships have largely been outpaced by associates degree programs and credentialism. IT roles are rife with credentialism, most credentials taking 300$ plus for the exam alone without any training materials. Going back to school takes a lot of money and real confidence that youre sure what you want to pursue.

I keep seeing people say that during the industrial revolution people were saying machines would take all our jobs, and that this time its the same thing. If thats the case - where should all these people be moving?

What should the 25 year old waitress with a philosophy degree be doing in her time off work to get into a real professional career that will allow her to retire at 65?

Are we sure we have jobs for these people? Is all this displacement just caused by the older generation being slower to retire because its less affordable to retire after the housing crash? If so, how do we address that?

Any advice on finding such companies?

great advice for sure! If you arent able to enjoy working on code at least a little bit, i dont think youd be able to stick with it long enough to really have a good fundamental understanding of software development

given concepts like eminent domain and their historical use, I think the assumption with property actually /is/ that the government owns it until proven otherwise.