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Anshul from the Codeium team here! As our FAQs clearly state, only Chat currently uses OpenAI APIs - our flagship Autocomplete capability (think free Github Copilot) uses proprietary in-house trained models and no APIs. We are upfront about this and because we want to guarantee users’ code security preferences, if you have disabled code snippet telemetry, we actually do not allow you to use Chat for this exact reason - we cannot guarantee what OpenAI does with your data, and we never want to accidentally expose this.

We are working on building our own models for Chat to remove this dependency, so you can use Chat while still guaranteeing privacy.

Oh and none of this affects Autocomplete, so downloading Codeium and disabling code snippet telemetry will still give users tons of value :)

that's fair - the point was less about the model and more about the fact that your code is not sent anywhere because it all happens locally

ill start commenting on other things - i usually just upvote on things that i find interesting but dont know enough to comment on

sorry! on a previous post, someone encouraged me to just post when Codeium was relevant, didn't realize the norms around launch threads.

and wrt the other comment, it is totally accurate - changing developer behavior for these search products is tough! we welcome any ideas :)

From the Codeium (https://www.codeium.com) team here!

Exciting to see more teams take on the code search problem - modern pure regex definitely is a suboptimal solution.

Just to objectively highlight some of the similarities and differences between Bloop and Codeium Search (Codeium also provides Autocomplete) to a user:

- Both are free for individuals

- Both use a mix of AI and regex

- Bloop has both free local and paid cloud offerings, Codeium only works locally (but therefore doesn't work as well on super large codebases)

- Codeium uses custom proprietary embedding models so no dependency on OpenAI and no code is sent to a third party AI

they're complementary! codeium works like copilot, constantly autocompleting what you want to type next, which helps a lot when you already have a decent idea of what you need to get done and need to get it done faster. chatgpt (and chat interfaces in general) help you get some ideas on what to do when you are doing more open-ended exploration, and is explicitly invoked. as developers, we all code in these different "modes" and different tools can be built for each!

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah the playground is a bit limited as it is for demo purposes.

We are fans of ChatGPT and think that ChatGPT is pretty complementary to tools like Copilot and Codeium. ChatGPT is helpful for longer form exploratory questions from natural language while Codeium in its current form is great to accelerate your coding.

I understand the sentiment and why it might come across that way, but we genuinely have gotten a lot more reasonable pointers in these comments than we were able to rack our brains about. And it seems like SEO attacks, Bing incompetence, and Bing actually going after some terms (like Chrome) actually have happened, and the main point here was that we genuinely don't get any feedback from Bing.

Yeah someone else brought up webpage performance, which we will totally look into - definitely haven't fully tested on cheaper hardware. And wrt text, we have lots of blog posts, FAQ, etc to make sure that the term "codeium" amongst others appears a lot.

Not sure what you mean here - our product does show up in the first position in Bing, it's just not our website, it's our listing on the VSCode marketplace. Our actual website doesn't even show up on Bing at all, irrespective of ranking.

We actually worked out the math - we don't use any external APIs like OpenAI (use our own models) so those costs aren't prohibitive, and we have a bunch of experience as a team building scalable ML systems, so we have driven down the serving costs by a lot.