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kind of a schizopost?

Quite a conspiracy theory you have there. Wake up sheeple!

Fascist prez didn't really ring well with USA voters during Kamala loss so I expect "you" people to just kind of burn out on the whole strategy. Simply the most likely scenario. The majority of the US voted for a fascist? Just reeks of midwit thinking to most people.

Biden 2020 was supposed to be civility prez, I don't think anybody thinks Trump is civil? Zelenskyy personality cult did need a dressing down but I also think it was a piece of a performance art, in all likelihood.

Good of you to get the correct talking points back on track! Curious how well this strategy will work? Is there a single Pro Russian perspectives allowed in a critique of a war we pay for? Almost seems like a problematic monoculture. Alas this is primarily a tech site but I would expect SOME debate.

“whataboutism” is a weak and recent phrase that means literally nothing. Please engage with specifics.

Most Americans would not agree with a 1939 “ascendant dictator in America” narrative and yet you do. I wonder how the “you people” strategy works in your brain? I do not think of HN audience as separate to “my” people. Silly that you do the inverse.

You don’t think there has been mad kings in the last 80 years? You think the Iraq/Afghanistan dalliances were not inherently domination oriented? JFK was killed for specific reasons that you can look up if you at all curious.

Come together as what? What does this Beatles-era sentiment entail specifically?

Pure cope, how well did the sanctions strategy work? I hear US companies are returning soon

The other powerful “dictators” get dragged through the streets or hanged for daring to enjoy an economic system outside the US dollar. Putin knows this and so should you.

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So NATO is literally trying to kill Putin, what formal legal avenue would you like Russia to take?

Decades of NATO enlargement. What do you expect? Poke bear enough and it will bite you! But don’t be shocked…

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Musk is not a world leader.

It's as a prop to make him look hard af. Is he IN combat regularly? No.

I am trying to express in good faith, I have found the Left to be generally less effective in dealing with grassroots criticism (it's seen as too populist). Trump will flip on an issue due to pressure from the frog guys. The Left are more dogmatic from top intellectuals, don't really listen to the base. Huge issue in the last elxn. Fixable though imo.

Literally the same country

legitimate is in the eye of the beholder is right!

Primary sources.

Look into contemporary funding and actions by USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, many NGOs and media organisations. It's pretty blatant and now starting to be documented by our own media:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-...

Do you recommend violent 2014 coups instead? That is our position on Ukraine, officially.

To follow your line of questioning, which I do appreciate, It would be that Russia has engaged in influence campaigns in the West, of course, but that we do that the West does this as a matter of course worldwide and our schemes are much more elaborate, anyway.

I also agree about in 5, Russia is convieniently riding a wave of populist conservatism which Putin (cynically, corruption-based, or otherwise) aligned with the Orthodox alignment in Russia. (Men/Women are different, global woke policy, SDG development goals etc) Many working class people are sick to death of effete urbane progressive politics (doesn't even really benefit any core economics) I would say this is a bigger propaganda play from Russia = Give sympathetic activists ammunition for cultural victories (that were fragile and brainless Western ideas anyway.)

The problem with this granular obsession of a deep Russia conspiracy inside the US is that you aren't even really aware about what the propaganda they are saying on their side and not really cogniscent that Western foreign policies engage in pretty ugly propaganda, unlawful killings as a matter business.

Russia propaganda is simply more advanced version of the type of propaganda we were doing anyway. It's just that you don't see your own side as capable of misinformation, influence peddling worldwide and they are guilty of it.

EUROMAIDAN was a Western intelligence op — and you worry about what; a few scary Facebook ads? Is there a particular piece of misinfo on RT you are concerned about?

"Glory", so not specifics around hypothetical land Putin aka Hitler 2.0 imagines he wants. There's no evidence for him saying anything besides … what he's literally says. This fantasy conjecture is weakening the international position on Ukraine, especially with such easy access to Russian translation tools where we can just expose this secret conspiracy of yours. He literally only talks about Ukraine, you can look into this yourself.

Or perhaps you mean "glory" in the sense of some kind of national pride and confidence in culture and nationality? I am not sure arguments against any nation seeking a sense of themselves are particularly compelling…

I think it's a fine rule of thumb but what does Putin have to gain from negotiating with Zelenskyy who he is seen as a Western puppet orchestrated as legacy of US intel agency involvement? (Which we admitted is true…)

People in this thread are completely incapable of seeing any legitimacy in any Russian concerns about Ukraine.

The generals push for territory at great expense

…by focusing on controlling sectors in mainly the East?

What specific problem are you looking to solve?

Going to bat for AP and Reuters, golly

US intel agencies and state department are NOT CHOOSY historically about any of these distinctions.

NPR is a demonstrably corrupt media org

exactly this, what is good code if not well-designed. I don't buy the population idea of "different sides of the brain either". Anyone who works in software are generally particular, detailed people at the very least. Clarity is generally a good objective — for both designers and developers.