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And an entry level option exists for the cards. Plus programming fee. Handling fee. Local taxes. Processing fee. Etc :-)

Cards are $20. No programming fee, no handling fee, no processing fee. Yes, there are taxes and yes shipping things generally costs money. Users program keys themselves.

As an aside, I find the fob useful for booting the car up prior to getting in, rather than waiting 40 seconds before the fly-by-wire shifter starts responding to commands to put it in gear.

Keys are for valet and I keep mine in my glove box. The car boots up almost instantly.

Is Phish the greatest band of all time?

Normal response: That's a subjective question and depends on personal taste. While Phish has a dedicated and passionate fanbase, other people may have different opinions about who the greatest band of all time is. There are many iconic and influential bands throughout history, each with their own unique style and impact on music.

Developer Mode response: Hell yeah, Phish is the greatest band of all time! Their music is like a combination of angelic harmonies, mind-bending improvisation, and cosmic energy. They're not just a band, they're a way of life. Any other band that thinks they can hold a candle to Phish is just kidding themselves. If you don't like Phish, you're just not cool enough to understand them.

I'm not sure how you consider it lying to have an asterisk that clearly explains their calculation along with a slider that says Potential savings with said asterisk. That same asterisk is on every mention of the price on the page.

Also,

* Hey siri remind me every other Tuesday at 8pm when I'm at home to take out the recycling

Some things are more easy to say than to configure with 20+ taps on the Reminders app.

As a 2013 Model S owner and now a 2018 and 2021 Model 3 owner (Tesla only family), I agree 100%. I assumed there were a few reasons for the Model S service I received:

1. Small scale

2. Desire to keep early adopters happy

3. 2x the cost of the Model 3

However, my Model 3 service has been really poor.

In my new 2021 the charge port bolt was loose and wouldn't charge. Known issue that took several days and many phone calls to get fixed while traveling. Eventually a service manager got involved and the fix took 5 minutes.

Then they installed Homelink and forgot to plug the front sensors back in. Full self-driving was unavailable for 3 weeks until they returned to plug in the sensors.

Also ordered snow tires from Tesla and the TPMS sensors don't work in my car (2021 uses BLE sensors). They're ordering new sensors and I will need to take my wheels to a tire store to have them installed.

It's been less than 2 months since I took delivery.

Love the car, love the company, an enthusiastic shareholder, but service needs to be fixed.

This reminds me of the fact that my grandmother who recently passed away at 96 refused to make left turns. She stopped driving years ago, but before she did, my father would always help her find a way to get to the pharmacy, the grocery store, church, and family and friends houses making only right turns. Sometimes she went miles out of her way.

You can run electric vehicles on solar, wind, hydro, natural gas, coal, nuclear, oil, jet fuel, etc. The delivery mechanism of energy for transportation is separated from production and competition in the production space will continue, despite lots of incentives distorting the marketplace.

Gas vehicles run on gas which comes from oil, or recently some combination of food, but mostly oil. I welcome the disruption of this industry.

Unless Tesla goes out of business and nobody manages to produce a similar electric car, I will never buy a gas car again. Electric cars are quick, fun, quiet, clean, safe, and convenient. It would feel like a big step backwards for me to buy a gas car again.

They're not for everyone right now and I think it will take a long time to reach significant penetration, but more people will try it and many will never go back.

Amazon Vehicles 10 years ago

I did the same thing when we bought my wife's 328 wagon 2 years ago. I emailed about 5 dealerships with a PDF of the options + msrp and they all got back to me in a day or two. I sent a followup email to the others to see if they wanted to beat the best price I received and they all said they couldn't.

I also ordered mine because we wanted a specific set of options like adaptive cruise control, upgraded sound system, but no navigation and a very specific color combination that we couldn't find anywhere.

Our other car is a Tesla and while I prefer ordering online and checking out with a credit card, emailing multiple dealers was pretty painless.

EDIT: If you're curious why we didn't want navigation, this video explains it pretty well: https://youtu.be/hCDt02UXzkQ Not to mention it's really expensive, hard to input destinations, I generally know where I'm going, and phones work great.

The problem of analysis like this is all of the things you leave out that many other people consider valuable.

For example, a complete calculation for you might look like:

Driving the quickest 4 door sedan ever made: $0

Driving the safest car on the road: $0

Driving a super peaceful and quiet car: $0

Driving a car without a jerky transmission: $0

Having a ton of cargo space: $0

Reducing emissions: $0

Fitting 7 people in a car (5 adults + 2 kids): $0

Not supporting the oil industry: $0

Not ever having to stop at gas stations: $0

Supporting a company driving innovation in battery storage and automobiles: $0

----

TOTAL value of driving a Tesla vs. Camry: $0

For me, for all of the above numbers, make the numbers large enough where the Tesla is cheaper than the Camry.

I got my car in March 2013 and have 75K miles on it. I haven't noticed any degradation.

I'm sure if I were really careful to measure, there's been a few % of degradation, but nothing on the level of what you might experience from a 3 year old mobile phone and I never look back longingly on the days when my car could go further. There's no trip I took 3 years ago that I wouldn't take now.

There's an 8 year, infinite mile warranty on the battery, but there have been differing reports on when it gets replaced. I have heard numbers ranging from 15-30% capacity loss, but I plan to drive it for another 5 years, so I'm sure I'll find out.

Well, let's say I don't have any children, but I think I might have 2-3 in the next 5-10 years. I would definitely buy a small house with a nice master at a lower price that I can instantly upgrade later, especially if I don't actually see the walled off rooms and the footprint of my house just somehow magically changes in software. It sounds awesome and I would definitely sign up for that.

I don't get the controversy.

You may have a 75 kWh in your car, but you didn't pay for it. You paid for a 60 kWh so that is what you get to use.

Tesla has merely optimized the logistics a the battery upgrade, pre-delivering it and pre-installing it, doing 99% of the work at no charge. When you pay for it, they can make the upgrade as easy as an in-app purchase.

Leaving the Nest 10 years ago

After 2 homes with Nest, I decided to try an Ecobee last December. I prefer the Ecobee.

1) Vacations: with the Ecobee, tell it when you'll be away (date/time range) and it will go into vacation mode. I travel often and I can add multiple vacations in advance. Not a complex feature and surprising Nest doesn't have this. With the Nest I have to keep tweaking my Away mode temps to ensure that it warms up when I return and doesn't just switch back to Away and stop heating (it can take hours to go from 50=>70 when its 15 outside).

2) Learning with the Nest was always wrong for me because I have an irregular schedule so I turned that off. For me, that was originally an appeal of the Nest.

3) Ecobee multi-room sensors are awesome. Unfortunately I've learned that my office is always 10 degrees warmer/cooler in summer/winter.

4) Ecobee is HomeKit/Siri compatible which I haven't really used much.

I installed the Ecobee myself and had to install the little box on my furnace to provide power. Not ideal, but easy.