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Orion on Artemis has a bunch of really cool stuff like redundant computers but it's certainly jarring to go from Verbs and Nouns of Apollo to seeing them tapping on screens with a GUI
Fair enough
I know that he referred to Twitter as "it's as if they drove a clown car into a gold mine and fell in"
Yes Zuck because a product that didn't constantly fuck around with people's privacy settings and had real real-world uses... sure, money is all that matters. You would know. Your vision of the web isn't liberation, it's "dumb fucks", that's all you think people are
If by throwing shit you mean copy everybody
No other company in the internet age has done what Facebook has. Zuckerberg -
Copies every product he sees. Copied Twitter, Snapchat. Lifted features from Google+ Overwrite people's public-facing emails, which hurts being able to use competitive services https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4151433 Apparently wrote some tool which allowed for data transfer into FB from Myspace, but not the other way around (yes, I know. In many ways Myspace was hot trash, that doesn't mean he wasn't a malicious actor to extreme extents Blocked links to competition Other things I can't remember right now
Say what you will about Myspace, or Friendster, or Google+ (I'm annoyed as anyone they thought a great method to get people to use it was "ok, we'll ask you again later" on Youtube) but Facebook has always rigged the game, they've been bad actors
You're hilarious. That isn't a compliment
Why? Why is this not a concern?
I'm a civilian, not a VC. In my own case, I'm worried how many things pass through the CCP. How censorship of mentions of Tiananmen Square is something they're quite interested in
The famous story of La Chorrera is that Dennis is the one that went seriously off the rails but it's Dennis in some of his public statements and book that cast skepticism on a few of Terence's ideas
What you shouldn't do is just willy nilly tell people to take things. If the article is right about that, it's disappointing. I always saw him as being very academic and quite in tune with the dangers of outright recommendation (perhaps in contrast to Leary but I don't want to misinterpret Leary)
I don't believe that that can be true. Taibbi is far too respected a journalist to just be willy nilly tricked like that. There really was government directed censorship
I know. I'm just, allowed to be sad
As far as I'm aware, the Pirate Bay raid essentially only happened because the US threatened Sweden with trade repercussions. Like, thanks, guys? Way to show you have superior ethics to the pirates
I'm so incredibly happy police resources are being used to "protect" the rest of us from... harm...?
I don't think you're allowed to define what good faith is if you can't read my mind
And I don't even know what they censor now, it's just that the old system was more publically known
Please don't be intentionally irritating
Which is kind of odd
Would they have done that to the Winklevosses' ConnectU? Was ConnectU purely a 'dating site'? As far as I know it was them who onboarded it using college connections
I was just trying to say old Twitter had a serious problem but apparently that goes against the hivemind so I accrue mass downvotes despite posting my comment in good faith
the cave thing
Yeah, this does matter to me. I was willing to give him a pass (still am) in a vacuum regarding the Twitter thing given the mass censorship of the old regime (sorry - no, it wasn't acceptable, in any way shape or form) but if he's that petty it doesn't bode well. I keep saying I can believe one thing without subscribing to the Elon fan club
Doesn't bode well for SpaceX either. Isn't one of the Artemis landers from SpaceX?!
The death of Districts kills me. As far as I know this was baked into the origin Geocities (Yahoo, why the fuck did you buy it and then shut it down? albeit, 10 years later, but still). Neocities? It was a page someone made, and it's now a spinning rat image because of one tantrum or another
I consider Facebook to be the worst of all worlds. Frankly
They don't show you what your friends actually post. Someone saying "hey - I'm in the parking lot at some place, I need help moving this thing" 5 minutes ago? You might see it on your feed in a week
They engage in reputational decay https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1775182 (see also, photo tagging)
They've cut off access to your friends https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4151433
It's a company involved in lots of OTHER things which don't make it a good netizen https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10791198 (oh and their own cryptocurrency in Libra, that's fun)
"Dumb fucks" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1692122
Edit: You get banned at any time while the obviously horrible thing you report doesn't get taken down. That's not sustainable. It's not a thing where you can actually physically keep in touch with people, either nominally strangers or the best of friends
I do just want to focus on the 'even without the politics' asterisk though because sometimes there is a risk people think everyone on x side (x meaning 'a given side', not x.com) is wrong
You can claim Elon bought x as some sort of power trip. Fine. Willing to entertain it, I have no dog in the fight. I'm not a member of the Elon fan club. And yet Twitter (under Dorsey though I don't think he was involved) was banning tons of people under guises of 'misinfo' that wasn't misinfo
tl;dr
And also even if they never had Onavo you have Zuck furiously backpedaling in an email about I'm not saaaaaaaying we should acquire IG to wipe them out from the landscape of competition, but........
And then you have the WA founder (Acton) famously saying delete facebook
Some acquisitions make the product better or are altruistic. Zuck's war chest isn't one of them
Yes and then Facebook did everything they could to subvert granular privacy controls (Myspace was decent, it had a wall but that was about it) which is of paramount importance for people with real safety issues
FB would have been invented. It's just another layer of authentication anyway. Myspace was an interesting experiment for its time
...Comparisons of Tom to Zuck are rife I'm aware but somehow Myspace isn't known for "they trust me, dumb fucks"
Possibly Snapchat? Snapchat already has spectacles whereas apple doesn't have their own glasses
"How much on user account support?"
"..........."
Yeah this type of conflation gets used a lot
A common one is "users don't care about privacy. that's why they use facebook. [zuckerberg was right?]"
No, you silly, silly people. People want to use products that allow them to communicate or reconnect with people or ...
They don't 'want' constantly changing privacy settings or changing TOS. If this is the best HN can come up with, ostensibly filled with S Valley people... well, it says a lot
I'm sorry if it's a non sequitur but I feel even beyond superintelligence/AI/LLM whatever of the last few years... they've always done this, it's always been somewhat hamfisted
Examples abound of "I reported Nazi hate page. Didn't violate community guidelines. I called my friend a jerk, jokingly, got a month ban
For years. Not restricted to when ChatGPT et al arrived on the scene
(Because, AI in theory makes sense. If you want to monitor things at scale you might use AI - however that's defined - to make your workload easier. When is an account being hijacked? When are bad actors infiltrating the system? Or whatever)
Well... uh
'When it started' was 2003. The same year as his 'dumb fucks' quote or hacking reporters who were investigating him
That's not 'being a nerd [nice person] when it started'
It should also be said Niemann has also had incredibly good results since the whole thing
So it casts doubt on what Magnus said somewhat
(Of course, on Rogan, I think, Magnus defended the allegations. And of course he's world's strongest player for a reason. Other young players have beaten himm before such as Esipenko and he never said anything like that)
- Paul Morphy, lawyer (I think). One of... well. Greatest of all time discussions are hard (times evolve) but he murdered his competition relative to his time
Just an editorial note here, it's not clear that it was a suicide. The official diagnosis was some heart thing