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How will they do this, exactly?

Easy. Heavily regulate the farmers with climate regulations including carbon taxes. Or pass emissions laws like they have in the Netherlands which would force ranchers to downsize their herds. This would drive up cost to produce and scarcity of the product.

As for the second part of your comment I truly am not sure what you're talking about? It seems like your sentiment confirms the first part of my answer.

Totally not true. They are going to drive up the cost of real meat and other livestock in the name of "climate change" and force regular people to opt for cheaper sources of food such as algae proteins, fake "meat", cricket flour, etc. Why do you think Bill Gates has invested heavily in this field? He is a monopolist first and technologist after.

They will find out the truth soon enough. I'm glad some on HN still have some sense.

It's not obvious. What do you mean?

Crustaceans aren't insects.

I'm opting out of sneaky ways to lower the standard of living for the population of the free world. Steak > Beyond Meat junk. Bacon > fungus. Chicken/Fish > crickets.

Repulsive.

I absolutely agree with you. It seems like HN was once full of thoughtful people grounded in good sense. Now I can see there's a lot more "embrace the future" in support of The Next Thing thrown at us plebes from the authoritarian establishment.

Fake meat made of hyper-processed plant materials are NOT meat and who knows what long term health effects would result from someone subsisting solely on that kind of food.

Human beings evolved to eat whole plants and meat. We generally find eating insects repulsive for a reason, just as we don't generally like hearing the sound of someone vomiting because it means illness is nearby. In my case I am listening to my gut and I will resist all efforts to get me to eat crickets for my protein while driving up the cost of beef so high it can only be afforded by the rich.

A free man with any dignity does not prefer crickets over meat or pretend fungus is bacon.

I have to say I don't want to continue the conversation because your reply is incomprehensible. This isn't about touchy feely internal reflection.

All heavily marketed "trends" are predetermined to forward an ultimate agenda from the permanent elite class. Bill Gates doesn't want you eating beef and pork. He wants you eating his fake "meat" so they can shut down the livestock industry to save Mother Gaia from global warming.

The AMA recommends against red meat because it's high in saturated fats. It's never been proven that saturated fats are the cause of atherosclerosis.

Is this a conspiracy? Yes. But it's not a theory, the evidence is all around.

I watch a lot of survival/catch/clean/cook videos on youtube just in case.

Fungus != meat

I am not eating bugs, fungus and highly processed fake "meat" in the future. I will literally move to a rural farmland to get real food before I buy into this ridiculous movement.

No I think he became the richest man in the world by making observations and acting on those observations successfully.

I'm not eating bugs or bacteria for my main source of protein. I'm eating meat, fish, eggs, cheese, cream, fruits and vegetables.

Stop telling me that my future is bugs!

I'm talking about "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome" which the establishment is struggling to pass off as "old hat"[0] now that dozens of current and former athletes are dropping dead on the field, in the boxing ring or at home. [1]

[0] https://health-desk.org/articles/what-is-sudden-adult-death-... [1] https://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dpbhnvgov/content/Boards/B...

Anecdotal: The POTUS currently has BA.5 and it twice vaxxed and twice boosted. Apparently his symptoms are mild. My father is 72 years old. Never vaxxed and has not had a cold for at least 4 years. Doesn't mask, lives in Florida.

Objective: If you watched the Town Hall meeting I linked to with the LAC+USC faculty you would hear the current situation from their own testimony. No hospitalizations at all in the last two months.

Conspiratorial: The NYT and CDC are compromised by the establishment medical cartel and fudge numbers to trick credulous people into believing whatever they want.

I am taking a holistic approach to my thoughts on this matter.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2207323

Overall, 98% of the persons with infection were gay or bisexual men, 75% were White, and 41% had human immunodeficiency virus infection; the median age was 38 years.

Per an establishment journal %98 were gay men and 41% had AIDS? Ok, I've heard enough. Remember AIDS was going to kill us all by transmitting through toilet seats?

The virus fear-mongering has reached a fever pitch.

The Lancet knowingly lied about HCQ. Therefore I don't trust them.

Anything less than an airtight full aerosol filtration respirator will not stop aerosols infected with SARS-CoV-2 from leaving and being inhaled by people. Fact. The latest CDC data suggests that "medical masks are better than cloth masks" but never attempt to identify a difference between a cloth mask and nothing.

This article outlines a paywalled paper suggesting masks don't work at all. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/data-do-...

The incidence of infection between areas that are fully mask-mandated can't be proven to differ significantly from areas that had no mask mandate due to many other factors https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-....

I don't trust the establishment because they were wrong about everything. Fauci lied about masks, then lied about lying about masks, then lied about HCQ, then about IVM and other treatments. The NIH has provided 0 guidance on treating COVID other than vaccines. They did eventually do a study on HCQ to "disprove" it's effectiveness but started the dose at 1200mg/day! Nearly lethal. This of course started on patients that were too far advanced in disease and also had co-morbidities. It was a sham and borderline homicidal. All to protect the emergency use authorization for vaccines and Remdesivir.

A course of HCQ: $10. A course of Remdesivir: $3000. Which is a more fiscally responsible opportunity for a for-profit industry that controls the NIH and FDA?

The NIH staffers including Fauci (and of course the expert who is not an expert: Bill Gates) stand to make a lot of money on vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer.

Fauci also lied about the NIh funding gain of function research in the Wuhan lab under oath to Congress. https://www.outkick.com/nih-admits-fauci-lied-about-gain-of-...

Historically the entire medical industrial complex and APA lied about the "chemical imbalance" theory for depression for decades while making billions of dollars selling SSRIs and misleading the population for profit: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0

It is my opinion that these establishment organizations have 0 credibility anymore and I would never trust anything put forth by them at face value.

2. If masks don't prevent transmission, and mandates are intended to prevent transmission then mandates don't work. Aristotelian logic.

The Lancet also said that HCQ were dangerous and caused extra fatalities in COVID patients. They then retracted that because the data there were basing that on was completely made up. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

The journals are unreliable on this and many other topics. Objective data suggests that mandatory masking has no effect on transmission.

The mRNAs have been well known to cause serious myocarditis in healthy young men (including my own nurse at UCLA who had to check in to the ER after getting the Pfizer jab).

The current COVID-19 disease doesn't kill anyone at all based on data from LAC+USC https://youtu.be/_fGuA-nU7EI?t=460.

So no. The risk does not outweigh the benefit.

The Federal Government can't be expected to pay/mandate payment for every citizen's inconvenience and health problem.

You lost a week's pay because you couldn't work because you were ill. Not because some politician was mean and didn't pay you or tell your boss to pay you.

I think I am the conspiracy theorist of this thread but even this seems far fetched...

People should stay home when they are ill and isolate, with any transmissible illness.

But in 99.999% of cases, non-airtight masks do not work at all. Not even a little bit.

How often do gas cars catch on fire randomly (and not under the hood but under the passenger compartment as with EVs) compared with spontaneous electric car fires?

This is reminiscent of the Galaxy Notes that were exploding in people's pockets some years ago.

What about the $400 million he donated to Democrat ballot mills all around the country in 2020?

Of course hyper-leftist controlled California will squeeze every last drop out of the CA "scandal" and ignore real issues like exploding homelessness, elevated drug deaths, companies fleeing tax and regulatory burdens, etc. etc. et al.

A. People aren't dogs. We are of a much higher level intelligence and self awareness. That's why psychological studies of rats, or even apes, as human analogs is ludicrous.

B. The happiest people on the planet are extremely ethical, have a good moral compass and have a will to help others. They have goals and attain them. And they especially don't blame their environment for their shortcomings. They find ways to adjust their environment to themselves and not the other way around.

Someone who is content with a simple life is still following that maxim. Their goal is to live each day in relative comfort according to their own standards.

There's nothing but claims backed by facts in that document. Your ad hominem attack is not a valid argument.

I see your point, and my argument supports it. Who creates "societal norms" other than the individuals that make up society? It starts with individual action to reverse the dwindling spiral.

If food weren't so easy to obtain we wouldn't have this problem.

Yeah they are probably into some extremely toxic, unnatural things that cause them to secretly hate themselves. I wonder how much shady sexual shenanigans happens in the households of the top 1%? Plenty of drugs, gossip, gluttony, lust, etc.

Happiness comes from the overcoming of not unknowable obstacles toward a known goal. It's the journey, not the destination. And the trick is to set another goal once you attained the one you're on.