Here's a lot of really nice features in this language (I really like the actor / nursery designs), but a GIL in 2026 feels like a massive weakness
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This is cool, it reminds me of stumbleupon from back in the day
x402 as a standard will never have a fee.
x402 abstracts away gas! You can try here from a human use standpoint: https://www.x402.org/protected And you can see how to accept stablecoins or spend in the the examples https://github.com/coinbase/x402/tree/main/examples/typescri... https://github.com/coinbase/x402/blob/main/examples/typescri...
Blockchains are fast and and cheap now! Modern blockchains like Base, Solana, Sui (and many more) typically have block times <2 seconds, and a stablecoin transfer can cost as little as $0.0005 independent of the $ amount being transfered
its not that 402 isn't used, its that there is no standard response, which makes it hard for AI agents to pay for access. x402 provides a standard response format clients can programmatically use to create a payment, either using crypto assets like stablecoins, or in future, fiat methods.
Given that this runs atop Payment Required, doesn’t this mean that each API request would involve an extra one or two data transfers?
Yes, assuming its the first time you've interacted with an API endpoint and don't have cached payment requirements.
Is there a reason why you wouldn’t pay ahead of time? I just understand why you couldn’t buy a few dozen/hundred/thousand dollars worth of credits, and wait until it runs low.
This would require manually integrating each vendor, which is totally valid if your agent performs a lot of a single type of task, but we suspect over time there will be huge value in agents being able to dynamically select tools / apis they want to use to accomplish their tasks, and dynamically pay for what they use
Does x402 prevent the double-spending problem?
This depends on the implementation on the underlying network, but basically the spending signs an authorization for transfer, and the merchant either settles that onchain themselves or delegates to what is called a facilitator that settles on their behalf. On EVM chains for the exact payment scheme this leverages EIP-3009 signatures
Gas is variable, but Coinbase currently subsidizes x402 transactions that go through our facilitator
x402 as a protocol has no fees, but the underlying network transactions are conducted on my have costs. Merchants can choose the underlying network transactions are conducted on that best fit their usecase. x402 also has the concept of a facilitator, which exists to abstract away the underlying payment networks. Many facilitators (including Coinbase's) subsidize the gas used for transactions.
(x402 author here) Thats actually exactly what the intention with x402 is. Merchants express to the buyer multiple ways that they accept payment and the buyer chooses the one they prefer. As of right now stablecoins on various crypto rails are the major form (largely because they're the easiest to start with from a development standpoint), but as Cloudflare indicated in their blogpost, they're proposing a scheme that uses deferred payment via credit card or ACH https://blog.cloudflare.com/x402/.
we will happy accept PRs the add support for any chains that can perform the payment flows in a safe, non-custodial way for the client, resource server and faciliator. Currently x402 works with any EVM chain, and we're working with several chains on integrating.
People never discuss company size along with this question.
If you're at a giant company, the answer is likely no, there's enough politicing and paperwork where the highest impact thing to be done by a manager is likely not coding.
If you're at a startup / smaller more nimble org in a big company, the answer is likely yes, if you've gotten to the point where you're a manager, in theory you're a very good engineer and you should spend your time coding, but on things that aren't on critical path. Bug backlog, experimental things with no hard deadlines, proof of concepts, all of these are valuable things. Leading from the front is also just generally good with smaller groups.
Also under discussed by people having these debates (typically managers), is not acknowledging how bad most managers are at coding, especially if their job hasn't required them to code in a while. I see all the time that managers look for any excuse not to code, because it would reveal to their team that they're at best an L4 level coder after being in management for 5-10 years.
This looks really nice! Curious if its running in production anywhere
This is super cool. Haven't seen such a pragmatic framework for composing local LLM action, especially in rust
Data policy, knowing what and how data is stored, would be good enough
This looks really cool and something I would use, but I'd need to see more on data retention and security. Just by nature of the product it requires sharing a lot of potentially very sensitive information.
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If anyone is looking to switch, I've far preferred using Insomnia to Postman https://insomnia.rest/
We're still ironing out a few things but unit tests for various functions then we have smol statistically representative datasets for each model. In CI we train a model on the small dataset (aim for <5 mins e2e) then have a a suite of model metrics we care about, tests confirm values are within acceptable bounds and the test values are pulled into the PR.
What has worked fairly well so far:
Models:
- Models are structured as python packages, each model inherits a base class
- base class has define how to train, and how to predict (as well as a few other more specific things)
- ML engineer can override model serialization methods, default is just pickle
Infra:
- Code is checked in to github, Docker container built each merge into master
- Use Sagemaker BYO container to train models, each job gets a job_id that represents the state produced by that job (code + data used)
Inference / deployment:
- Deploy model as http endpoints (SageMaker or internal) using job_id
- Have a service that centralizes all score requests, finds correct current endpoint for a model, emits score events to kinesis, track health of model endpoints
- A/B test either in scoring service or in product depending on requirements
- deploy prediction jobs using a job_id and a data source (usually sql) that can be configured to output data to S3 or our data warehouse
So far this has been pretty solid for us. The tradeoff has been theres a step between notebook and production for ML engineers which can slow them down, but it forces code review and increases the number of tests checked in.
Julia is great but it doesnt play in the domain of apps and servers
I'm really excited for this. I'm unaware of any mainstream language with first class support for differentiation, I think its going to be really interesting to see what people use it for out side of ML.
I've been using firefox on my personal computers and phone as my main browser for ~18 months. Honestly at this point I prefer it to chrome. On mobile the ability to use native extensions like ublock origin is amazing.
Also Canadian (Vancouver / Victoria), spend a lot of time in SF. This has also been my experience but I'm wondering if its just a big city thing in CAD.
Canadian services are typically good especially for urgent care things, I only have gone private on one occasion and that was for an MRI years ago when there were fewer of them available. I had a tear in my MCL and they wanted to see the degree (relatively low priority, it wasn't a full tear and I didnt need surgery). The wait for the MRI was ~6 weeks but so just paid out of pocket privately and had the results sent to my doctor. Took 2 days and he got what he needed.
At first I was fairly disappointed that Swift was chosen over Julia, and I still wish there was strong Julia support because Julia is a great language, but I've slowly been changing my mind and think Swift could be a really good choice long term.
I also just really like Chris' work and trust him to make the right calls until proven otherwise.
Good to know!
This actually looks really cool. I really like the idea of RPC over websockets built into the framework, I don't do much webdev anymore but I dont think I've seen that before. Looks like a really solid project
I first tried to use Tendermint a year ago and honestly it was rough. Their codebase had very few comments, including things a go linter would harass you endlessly for like function comments, and the docs were barely existent. The codebase was also not exactly what you would call "idiomatic" go.
I checked back in at the Cosmos fundraiser, and then again a few weeks ago and their documentation while still needing work, as well as their code quality is definitely improved. I like their idea and I want the project to succeed, and things like independent third party audits are the way that happens.
Kudos to the team for not being afraid to look for the warts, better to get them now then later.