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Except that's not what the article is about.

What it's about is this:

This one data center in Ohio claimed to be a closed loop system, but then dumped their blowdown directly into the water table or something and now everyone's tap water is weird.

That is miles away from how your average "closed loop" system operates. There should be accountability for DC operators, but that's not what people take away from the article. What people take away from the article is, "All the data center companies lie, and are the worst sorts of damn dirty polluters and they will ruin your town".

You're putting words in my mouth. Don't.

The government has the kind of power needed to rein in all of these privacy issues by regulating big tech. It will be difficult, but more difficult things have been achieved in our lifetime. Join the EFF. Contact your congress people.

What I'm actually saying is the anti-DC people are trying to solve a societal level problem only peripherally related to the thing they are trying to ban at a local level. That seems a lot harder than getting congress to care about privacy issues.

Yeah, but the thing is - those guys aren't using the majority of data center capacity out there.

The Anti-DC crowd doesn't appreciate that the surveillance state is coming with our without all these DC's being built. That is going to get hosted some where, some way. The fix is regulatory and political.

They're building a mass of DC's near me as well in northern IL (not quite as many as by you). I see a lot of weird stuff on social media - people inactive for years all of a sudden becoming super-activists and posting non-stop anti-DC content. Nearly identical content to what's being pushed by a bunch of faceless accounts named like "Water4All","Nature Reign" - something vaguely environmental sounding.

Talking points like:

"We should call data centers what they actually are: surveillance centers designed to put us all in a digital prison by 2030"

It's fishy. People aren't quite showing up and saying the same things at city council meetings, but the local city anti-DC group is full of people reposting this stuff. One clickbait article in particular, "there's no such thing as a closed loop system".

There's real concerns with the data centers. But, the opposition to them doesn't feel entirely organic (imo).

That is why the E stands for Executive. COO's run the company. The CEO wines and dines and handles vision and escalations. You have described it to a T.

Now, sometimes CEO's run he company. Often not though.

Texas is particularly wild to me as a midwesterner. All the bibles and megachurches and all that and... They have strip clubs freaking everywhere! Really weird zoning laws as well - I recall seeing a strip club across the street from an Office Depot, next to a deli. The suburbs where I live, you have to go to a seedy part of town so you feel good and ashamed about it. lol

Some TV shows rightfully take aim at this contradiction (recently: The Hunting Wives).

That's different from hearing their client saw a picture of the abuse of a total stranger.

I get it, actually. It's totally possible the picture in question was not known to authorities prior. That's called due diligence to look into it.

Adults not looking into things or following up on things are how the system fails children if you read some accounts of people who were abused by their guardians. Horrifying stuff.

I have zero doubt that it's possible somebody is scraping the replies to political articles and trying to take control of accounts that show any interest in politics, to use those accounts for other purposes because they appear to be valid accounts instead of bots.

I can't prove it, but it sure looks like this is what's going on with some of the accounts which are posting anti-datacenter content on FB. Old ladies inactive for years who all of a sudden become super activists.

A wild world indeed, and frustratingly one that Meta doesn't seem bothered by. Presumably because it drives engagement.

Talking about social media strangeness.

I've noticed on Facebook that when you make a comment on a political article, you will sometimes - within a minute or two - start getting failed login attempts or password reset attempts on your account.

Given that your email address and phone are not visible unless you explicitly share them (and I use a pseudonym on FB), the implications are frankly chilling.

If you want it accessible outside your house, the two most common options are NGINX + LetsEncrypt or Tailscale.

(or you make your peace with sending your login details in cleartext)

It is legal by default. The question is: why isn't it illegal?

Some quick searching suggests this scenario hasn't been tested in the courts. Like most things, you have to take it to the federal courts and establish case law, OR pass a law (good luck).

It shouldn't be allowed. Microsoft shouldn't allow this, but they do, because they like having revenue from business partners.

I grew up with a C64, and the story resonated with me. Not as much about getting pirates games to run, but more trying to play the latest games on our old 386 which came after the C64.

A friend of mine said, "PC gaming creates techies". Does it still? I hope so.

Woah. I've seen this before, boxes lying around in old closets.

I visited my dad at work once, and the setup looked just like this. I couldn't tell you if it was Starlink directly, but I heard that when my sister visited, one of his coworkers did something to mess with my dad's terminal's screen.

Noise is also legit.

Data centers being built by me - more than 20. A friend of mine works for an audio engineering firm and shared that the tech does not really exist yet to do more than get the modern data centers within city noise ordinances. You are going to hear them for a couple miles. As if I needed convincing he was legit - last week his coworker got flown out to my neck of the woods to conduct a study on the planned DC's in my town.

The opposition, though. They are not armed with sensible facts when they show up to city council meetings. They are armed with clickbaity headlines. I joined the local DC opposition group to offer advice on how to get the city to take them more seriously and was quickly banned for talking sense.

PS: we have banks for money, there should really be something similar for data.

It's very hard to imagine a government who would have this too far up their list of priorities. Switzerland maybe. Then Germany, France. Maybe. It's hard to imagine it catching on between the monied interests who can influence government and the lack of consumer awareness of the problem it is solving.

I see a lot of them on Nextdoor and at my city council meetings.

Talking points like: "Data centers are just surveillance centers that are going to use AI to put us into a digital prison!"

Whatever all that means. I assume some of it is about Flock cameras.

Among the criminals embezzling public funds in China, arguably the ones who get away with it are the "smarter" ones.

They may not have a higher IQ, but in fact it may be more like the ones who have more self control and discipline. It probably has not been studied.

"Why have criminals who have not been caught not been studied?" is an exercise for the reader.