NotAnOtter

Bad faith argument

Not gonna keep going back and forth when you seem to agree but are choosing to be difficult. We agree SO was falling before LLM's hit the market. We agree LLM's accelerated SO's demise.

You seem to think they weren't failing before LLM (simply rapidly losing member activity), which is a narrative that I won't follow.

It's pretty wild. Meanwhile bot farms just shuffle all identifiers.

They are actively harming human users in defense of their toxic mods & botters. Site is dying and they are the murderer.

Then explain the usage chart declining since ~2015?

As I said in my original post, LLM was the final nail in the coffin. I'm not arguing they aren't related. I'm saying they SO was falling long before LLM's took over. This isn't difficult logic.

IMO the community will fracture in two directions. Reddit's differentiator over Instragram, twitter etc. is that it's community based rather than individual based (with the algo making psuedo communities)

I feel some users will leach into platforms that created even more walled gardens, i.e. Discord, or platforms that reduce the sense of walled gardens i.e. Twitter.

I think Stack Overflow went dead because of AI specifically

This doesn't hold up when looking at usage charts. There is a clear peak around ~2015 with a steady decline through to now. LLM's came to market in their current form in the last couple years, and took a couple years to be broadly adopted. There was a clear and obvious market fall off way before AI / LLM.

Reddit isn't comparable

I agree with that in isolation; but since I don't agree with the AI premise this isn't especially relevant. I don't think AI will replace Reddit, I think one of the other major platforms will absorb it's users like Reddit / Hackerrank / better documentation / back searching absorbed SO's users through 2015-2021

I feel Quora gave up years ago though.

When you load a random content page, the top 50% of the page is a question, the bottom 50% is an ad that is designed to look like a comment, and the entire right panel is ads. Quora is more ads than content, you have to scroll and decipher what is or isn't an ad based on their greyed 2px font ad disclaimer.

How are concerns about ecological impact misplaced when discussing solutions to ecological problems. It feels pretty relevant to me.

And from everything I've seen/heard, tidal based solutions are just fundamentally incompatible with their product. Keeping sensitive metalic moving parts in saline solution exposed to the sun for years on end - paired with other random things like boating accidents or marine life - it's a non-starter. Constructing these things creates pollution. If it's lifecycle impact is less than oil's, great, I just don't believe we'll ever get to a state where it's better than oil AND (solar/geo/wind) + Batteries.

It's a massive stretch to think one poorly placed meltdown somewhere in the UK would lead to the UK collapsing. I suspect it would be visible on a 10 year GDP chart but not "trending towards 0" levels of economic fallout.

Also I might just be misinformed but I thought nearly all of the radioactive waste from nuclear plants is already collected. It's not a collection problem, it's a storage problem. And a "what do we do when the energy company shuts down and stops maintaining their storage yard" problem.

People are broadly misinformed. Nuclear plants release significantly less radiation than coal based plants, as an example. They do create a lot of waste that we currently don't know how to process, but the quantity is actually shockingly small in the context of a global issue. We're talking several warehouses. Not millions, not all of California. We can just pick some cave in northern Canada or central sahara and bury it there, it seriously isn't that much. It's better than where we currently store the waste which is basically the ocean & clouds.

Meltdowns are tragic when they occur - but rare. It just gets a lot of press when a city of 50k gets deleted than when global ecosystems fail or a billion people die a decade earlier than they otherwise would due to pollution related helath issues.

Yes, lifecycle analysis is the holy grail.

And I'm not qualified to say the tidal based solutions will never beat out Geo/Solar/Win + Batteries. In my informed but non-professional opinion, it seems like this avenue will never ever work at scale.

From everything I've seen, we have the answer, we're just stuck under the boot of old money oil barons. Solar + wind + geo (depending on the geographic area) for the majority of our power generation. Nuclear + batteries to smooth out the duck curve form the bottom, paired with more aggressive demand pricing & thermal regulations to smooth it out from the top. That's the answer. But lobbyist's going to lobby.

I used to throw loads of parties. At somepoint I realized..

1. It's expensive. I never once got a reasonable contribution from my friends. I knew this at the time, but eventually I was over it. Paying $100-250 per event just to deal with all the work and drama that comes with it.. not worth.

2. It's a lot of work. Hours of prep, hours of hosting, hours of clean up after. At the end of the day ~12 hours of effort for ~4 hours of fun is not a good ROI.

3. It frequently was an excuse to get drunk or high. Which is fun, whatever. But as I grew more health conscious, this was less and less appealing. I can drink on my own if I want.

4. There are better alternatives. I don't have to do any of the above options if I just jump on Discord for a while. Or join a rec league sport. Or spend it with my family.

As cool as this sounds, I'm not sure I'm as enthused with stuff our oceans full of more tech, which inevitably will wear down, break, and pollute.

It's better than oil (duh), and something that provides power when solar/wind can't is great (duh). I just wish we would give up on approaches that are basically "If we had a few million of these giga-ton structures all over the ocean, they would provide power equivalent to a few dozen nuclear plants"

I do not need to know if AI therapy is as good as Real Life therapy. It almost certainly is not.

I need to know if using it as AI therapy is actively harmful for some significant percentage of the population, and should be avoided. This arxiv does not discuss that as far as I can tell. LLM therapy is closer to an interactive journal. Journaling, getting your thoughts out, being forced to articulate grief in succinct words and pick out patterns - is all healing.

And most people cannot afford professional therapy.

If the thing gating your from creating a great product was the engineering, then I would call you a great product designer and not an engineer. If you suddenly can create products with a new tool - you didn't change, the tools did.

You're still a great product designer and not an engineer.

You should remain open to new things in this industry

I'm open to new things. I've seen demo's, attended presentations, and spent a long time toying around with it myself. I have not been convinced there is any meat there, not in it's current iteration. LLM's are designed to make things that "look" like human output and thus are very good at hiding bugs. It's ok at getting the first 20% of the project done, but that was never the hard part. It's always been the last 20%, and modern LLM's simply cannot do it. Not on large scale projects.

New things have come and gone. So far the only thing I'm convinced of is, it's easier to get funding when you can claim you use AI. That's it.

I have never copy and pasted code into development from an LLM/AI helper

Well that's simply a different reality from what my employer is encouraging. So not relevant. They not only want us to copy-and-paste, they want us to delete otherwise functional code to make it easier to paste in AI generated stuff.

Asking questions is fine, that's much much closer to an augmented search engine than prompt engineering. You're describing something different from what this post is about.

5 years is not what I would consider a big bargaining chip

I'm not bragging. I'm giving context. If I was 0 yoe or 20 yoe, those would be relevant too. And for what it's worth, I also started in middle school.

one leadership away from asking their employees the same thing your employer is

Yeah that's probably true

Rip

Words have meaning. I'm not a prescriptivist but when you have an army of formerly PM's, Designers, etc all at once exclaiming "I'm an engineer too!" that should signal that maybe the thing they're doing isn't really engineering.

Do you count making a square space splash page 'engineering'? Tools improving to the point that the barrier of entry plummets is great. That doesn't mean you're now engaging in the same fundamental task that happened before things got easier/

To claim AI is useless is ignorant. To claim AI is as good as 99% of people claim it to be, is also ignorant.

A lot of people have drank the 'exponential growth' kool aid but don't have enough understanding of the underlying tech to realize (1) there could be some fundamental limits to how good LLM based AI can be. Or AI in general for that matter. (2) a big part of why it got so good so fast is because we started pumping trillions of dollars of microchips & electricity into it. The hardware and energy consumption cannot continue exponentially.

My definition of science is something like "a methodical approach to reach some truth" whereas engineering is something like "a methodical approach to reach some functionality". And I think some version of that is pretty universally accepted.

So by that definition, prompt engineering is much closer to engineering than science. That said, I would consider it closer to product development than either of the above two; I don't count 'tell an llm you'll torture it until your website is hopefully less buggy' a methodical approach.

If one wished, could they do something like

`save adults to "adults.json" as XML`

The expected output would be a file with the name "adults.json" containing XML data. I don't see much benefit in this specific use case but I do have a 'code smell' in having the language automagically determine the output structure for me.

But is it real empathy? Did they actually pause and feel bad and convert their emotional response to some written message?

Or did they just short circuit. "Dead relative -> Say sorry for your loss". Like an AI bot.

It's the second one.

I'm cynical in general, but this type of stuff always sticks out. "I'm sorry for your loss" from one nameless headless stranger to a different nameless headless stranger feels as sincere as an AI bot, and that's to say it absolutely isn't.

Same as people saying things like "Don't say no one loves you, because I love you <3" but it's in a forum like this, or on Reddit. You don't know them. you don't love them.

Great iteration on the -dle format.

Bug: My word happened to be "will". When I typed "w", "i", "l", "l", the input area showed "wi". Since the second "l" was interpreted as a backspace operation.

General feedback, I would find a way to squeeze in variable hints. Maybe part of the definition, homophones, antonyms, 'rhymes with', etc.

And definitely find a way to get it on Northernlions playthrough. He does a dozen of these like every day.

What's your long term revenue model?

Enterprise licensing? Donation based? Hosting fees with value-add mark up?

Sooooooo mixed drinks..?

It's wild to me how you jumped down my throat about not looking into his product enough when you did read my entire comment.

Poked at it for a few minutes. And yes, it's clear how very little I get about air defense.

I would consider adding a tutorial or a toy version that's simplified a bit.

Why not just a barcode scanner? And a standard lookup for mixed drinks.

I don't feel like this needed an AI solution.

https://procgenzoo.com/ (currently not deployed)

Elevator pitch is: A simple searchable directory of various procedurally generated toys. Think Boids, Game of life, Maze generation, terrain generation, etc. written in Ts/Js. Anyone can contribute and will get their page for their implementation of a given ProcGen.

This is optimized for

1. Hobbyists wanting to make a ProcGen and have it be publicly available

2. Game Dev's & Academics looking for inspiration

3. Students / Amateurs looking for a project to add to their portfolio. It's specifically aimed at making the barrier of entry for your first "out-in-the-world project" as low as possible.

Long term vision will include bounties i.e. "I'm looking for a terrain generation algo that makes one main island surrounded by 6-12 smaller islands, some connected by a bridge, and every island should have an organic coast line with coves & bays and stuff".

There will be a voting system so clean, polished, well documented implementations of a given algorithm float to the top, (i.e. Game of Life) might get procgenzoo.com/CellularAutomata/GameOfLife.

The plan is to keep this free forever, and hoping donations cover hosting fees.

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I'm also working on BackPackReact. Which is an inventory management game where the placement of various components inside yourback will create & consume resources to power your jorney to the next trading post. I.e. Fire/{HeatSource} and Ice/{ColdSource} on either side of Thermoelectric Generator will generate Power, which enables your vehicle to keep moving.

But it's a balancing game, the more space you use for your machinery, the less space you have for inventory for your cargo. You want the most efficient "engine" but also enough supplies to handle any unexpected events.

Is it better to build a nuclear reactor? Or just fill up on wheat and rent & feed a horse to pull you to the town, so you can sell all excess wheat you didn't use? Should you spend money to gather intel on the trading price of Iron is at your destination city? Or pick up a contract to build an electric grid at the new settlement, which will require many trips but yield one large payout?

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Would love feedback on either of these ideas :) & if you would contribute to or play either.

Can someone TLDR why I should care as someone who doesn't directly get into the weeds of this type of things?

Is this written exactly for (1) people who implement/maintain this and, I say this with love, (2) nerds. Or will there be effects outside of a microscopic improvement on storage + latency.