Hey, let's not be defeatist. Give RFK Jr. a shot at it and we can bring it roaring back.
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False dichotomy. Your only options aren't HTMX or React/Vue/Svelte when web standards like custom elements have been here for years, are smaller, faster, and work with all your browsers (including the ones on your phone).
Love Lit. I've pushed hard for Web Components at work for a while now with some success (the shine is definitely coming off of Angular for a lot of people there) and I've only used Lit to build my personal projects for a long time.
I love it when I visit one of my pages and use Lighthouse to check it out and have nearly straight across 100 scores. Also, I usually have really great performance on phones as well because the pages are so light and quick to render.
This telescope and its mission to catch changes in the sky over time is going to help discover so many things.
Yes, this. I read it back when it came back and while it drew many parallels between computed systems with very few rules and real world phenomena, it never really did more than show examples and say, "Look, look how similar this is, this could be a thing, right?"
It was interesting and one of the best explorations of automata that I've seen, but I don't think anyone could draw any conclusions from it.
Not yet, but I may give it a try. The JSX this is as off-putting as a case of leprosy though. The idea that React needed to invent something new that wasn't JavaScript was absolutely terrible.
I don't want to poop all over someone else's project (hell, it's hard as hell to do anything like this), but I have to say that this feels like exactly what you said, a React/Vue/etc. alternative. But that is absolutely not what I want and not what I think will do people the most good in the long run.
Another project that largely ignores that custom elements and Shadow DOM are readily available on every modern browser (including the ones on your phone) and instead chooses to "simulate" components instead is... short sighted.
I crave something that attempts to fill in the missing pieces between something like say Angular and Lit. Give me something that treats a Web Component as its underlying tech for components but offers good support for animation. Something that comes with simple support for migrations (Ala Ruby on Rails) but doesn't include a ton of tooling for CSS that is not really needed anymore (I'm looking at you React) or was created before JS Modules and is still not making good use of them (ahem... Angular).
So, if someone is still stuck in React land, maybe this will be what they are looking for, but for someone keen to use what is built into modern browsers for speed and smaller apps, this seems like something we should pass on.
If this were my project I think I would provide some reassurances that the site doesn't keep records of project names or results and that none of it will be used to register accounts.
Several domain search websites over the years have been credibly accused of using info gleaned from searches to pre-register domains and accounts in order to take advantage of user's information.
In the Mac printer settings under Safari the user can uncheck "Print headers and footers" manually and that's almost sufficient for me.
For reasons I've struggled with debugging, it wants to print a second blank page after the first one. As long as the user skips the second sheet everything looks OK for Safari for my app.
Of course it is my friend, of course it is :)
https://github.com/JohnMunsch/PaperQuik.com
Note: It should be very easy to work on if you know JS. It's a handful of very simple Web Components and the SVG paper generation code. I did my best to have nice clean code for all of it.
I still take notes on paper sometimes and most "paper" sites are just a bunch of pre-created PDF files. Mine creates a SVG on the fly and then can print it out from the page.
While I really loved creating it and still use it myself, I wish printer support in the browsers was better. I don't have to deal with garbage like IE anymore, but nobody gives me a chance to remove automatic margins and stuff that gets printed in those margins. I can tell the user to do it manually, but much better would be a chance to prompt the user and offer to remove all of that if they OK it.
Component frameworks. I've used first AngularJS and then Angular at work for ten years, evaluated React, and we've settled on using Web Components (built with Lit for the moment) in our Angular code for the long term.
I continue to be astonished at the people who have not left. What isn't off-putting to you? The literal Nazis back on the platform? The racism? The misinformation elevated to the top level?
I quit when the moron made his offer to buy it. I briefly regretted it when he withdrew his offer and it seemed like he might not get it, but in the end he did buy it and I was vindicated.
I couldn't disagree more. We are a professional setting and have an app that is ten years old at this point that has used them previously and is expanding the use of them, not contracting them. This is after using Angular for a long time (we actually use our Web Components from Angular).
I would say starting a new application in 2023 based upon Angular or React would be the Ooof thing to do.
It's trivial to turn it off in Lit if you don't want to use the Shadow DOM.
We absolutely love Lit. We've used it for our Web Components after a brief (bad) dalliance with using Angular Elements to make some.
We pair it with Storybook, finicky though it is, to have a catalog of our components and stories showing off the variances for each.
BTW, there is an excellent documentary on General Magic out there that is readily available on several services. I just watched it this weekend because I was one of those people fascinated with what they were building and disappointed that it took another 15 years for it to come into being (though realistically they were way way too early; the hardware and software just didn't exist yet).
When that happened to me and my buddy with Borland back in the 90's that ended up being a blessing. They never recovered from their problems and we were lucky to have dodged being in that mess.
Exactly! I couldn't help but think of Hughes recently with his crazy choices. He hasn't got the injury from a plane accident to attribute his awfulness to though.
TIL, that there's important Bing source code???
You only have to go as far as the second tweet too get to, "For collapse will happen because of vaccine mandates." Uhh yeah.
Oh look, we suddenly care about the debt: https://lenexweb.com/cartoon-lucky-ducky-and-the-return-of-t...
There are so many good books it lacks... But still a really neat idea. Good work!
This is (%#(* ridiculous. If you're part of this group you're a coward or you're just looking for another excuse to treat women like something "less". I'll tell you to your face that you are wrong and that you should be ashamed.
"Polymer is a Google-backed libary focused on Web Components, a proposed group of technologies that are currently not well-supported in browsers."
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wow.
Seriously? We're going to actually act like breitbart is anything but a hate site? Don't post garbage from sites like this.
Long before the working conditions became commonly known I heard it described as "a dirty cube farm." Wow. How appealing.
Nothing about Amazon has ever appealed. Not their pay, certainly not their track record for hardware products (all terrible with the exception of the Echo), and not their other software with the exception of some of the stuff AWS has done.
Probably because it's coming from a paper owned by Ivanka Trump's husband. Oh. That didn't get mentioned? How odd.
This isn't funny, this looks like mental illness. He needs some help.