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It is not uncommon to have national and state flags, but it is not similar to how dictators like to hang their portraits. It is meant more to show pride of what you build together as a people, rather than to evoke fear and obeisance.

That said, this may have also been a photo op, and given the image is from texas, there are probably portraits of a dictator hanging around, too.

I was just surprised that the top comment had nothing to do with any of the technical aspects of Grok Build (and whether there's any trace of uploads).

Most people don't restrict themselves to only discussing the technical aspects of a thing. A thing which is technologically novel (e.g. not this example) may nonetheless not be worth using, due to assorted risks.

I don't find it surprising that HN posters are helping their fellow hackers avoid getting victimized by predators. We just have that sort of nice community :)

What does that have to do with Iran? And why would the bad actions of one country excuse the bad actions of another?

If israel's nuclear program isn't a "bad action", then Iran's nuclear program isn't a "bad action", either. If there is no bad action there, then there's nothing to excuse, and we're left with unjustified israeli attacks on Iran (along with Palestine and Lebanon to boot).

I’m talking about Iran’s nuclear weapon proliferation. There are rules, you think all countries should be beholden to those rules. Why are you excusing Iran breaking the rules?

Why are you excusing israel breaking those rules? Iran has been an NPT member for decades, israel refuses to even sign it, much less abide by the restrictions and safeguards around nuclear nonproliferation. Clearly they are the real proliferation threat here.

All countries don’t have equal rights

It's even simpler than that: all countries do have equal rights. The fact that russia or israel or the USA feel differently, and violate those rights, is immaterial.

But if you want to argue that it's legally and morally okay for any country to attack and invade whomever they want, for whatever reason they want, go for it. It kind of cuts against your point though.

The closest thing we have to an entity that defines and adjudicates relations with respect to countries and rights is the United Nations

What does the United Nations say about israel's actions in Lebanon and Palestine? I'll give you a hint: it matches what they say about russia's actions in Ukraine, because they're the same thing.

What does the United Nations say about nuclear weapon proliferation?

The United Nations agrees that countries have equal rights. Beyond that, are you talking about israel's nuclear weapon proliferation here, or iran's civilian nuclear program?

israel, a religiously fanatical autocracy which routinely threatens, attacks, invades, and occupies other countries, holds no moral high ground, and doesn't have or deserve any special rights above and beyond iran here. What does israel have as far as a nuclear program? That's what other countries are now entitled to, unless israel wants to give up theirs.

why should we have to effectively pay off Iran or have some special deal where they hold the world hostage less they build a nuclear bomb?

This is a narrative you constructed. The reality is simpler:

- All countries have equal rights.

- The usa and israel want iran to give up their rights to a nuclear program, which is equal to the usa's and israel's right to a nuclear program.

- If you want someone to give you something, you generally have to give them something on which they place equal or greater value.

Iran was building nuclear weapons under our nose anyway and loading up on missiles and drones

So was+is the usa and israel.

Nevermind Iran’s continued funding of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis

The usa continues funding israel and supporting their war on Lebanon, Palestine, and Iran.

Human review is an exception

I see quite a few bloggers saying this. Not super surprising coming from a vibe coding company trying to encourage vibe coding. The problem with applying this in other companies is that human review by the vibe coder is the exception. It still gets human reviewed, just by a tired human who is jaded at daily getting numerous 20 page PR review requests with 20 distinct unrelated changes because the "author" figured as long as they're making a change with AI they might as well say yes to every suggested follow-on prompt and as long as they're making a PR why not include all these changes in it and the code is moved all around for no reason and every line shows changes because of formatting changes so we'll have to add more rules to the linter now which we never needed before and the functions are renamed and reimplemented and replaced and removed because of course it's just better that way and the documentation is full of wrong assumptions and emojis and oh god the comments have emojis too and it's ok they can implement those fixes just give them a moment so they can add another commit to the 20 fix commits in the PR and the commit they push doesn't have anything to do with the thing it's supposed to fix did they even look at this ok just talk to them and oh they've been away on chat for hours and oh they're an innovator look at all those commits made and PRs opened and oh geez if those old geezers would stop holding up the PRs with slow human brains and being blockers maybe they'd be the ones getting the promotions and the fast-tracks and the innovator awards

Your "seeking to empower" looks a lot like victim blaming in this case.

Maybe if you didn't claim the problem was a mistake on the part of the victim, rather than unearned mistreatment by the carrier?

Or if you provided any solutions or ways to solve the problem other than, don't do the totally normal things for which you were victimized?

I think the reason folks don't get his point, is because he thinks the discussion is about people, rather than ideas.

So it makes sense that his point makes no sense – it has nothing to do with the idea "doing X is asking for trouble and should be interpreted as a threat" for any value of X, unless you think there's a value of X which all black people believe and 0 non-black people believe, which I imagine is pretty basic racism.

Do I need to be "specific"?

Only if you want to make a coherent point. It sounded like you wanted to come up with a counterexample, but stopped halfway through finding one, and thus stopped halfway through making your point, hence my asking.

Given that you instead wrote 3 paragraphs about why you shouldn't explain what you're talking about, I don't think even you can think of a counterexample, so I don't see this conversation going anywhere productive with regards to your point.

I'm pointing out that the general claim when applied to a different minority population suddenly does not sound as reasonable

Hard to "point out" something that isn't true. It could sound reasonable, it could sound unreasonable. You haven't explained what you're actually talking about here, so impossible to judge so far.

Feel free to contribute a nonzero amount of evidence towards your case here, and try to convince folks you're right. Remember, the topic is not people, but opinions of the form 'doing X is asking for trouble, and should be interpreted as a threat'.

On the other hand, if you want to come up with bigger and better reasons why you shouldn't explain what you're even talking about: I'll pass, and my point stands even stronger than ever.