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Great. Now let him go sit in a jail cell and recieve his punishment, and give the dev opportunity to someone who didnt sell drugs and chose the easy route

And I'm sure if you had your way the prisons would be empty of anyone convicted of a drug related crime because 'they and their terribly sad addictions/illnesses are the real victims'

Theyre in prison as a punishment for crimes

Large parts of the world have anti western media. Because thats what the audience wants to hear.

In your imagination, along with the idea that the ME media was calling for the destruction of the west

Apathy? More like the fact that the majority of people are too lazy, not motivated enough, not willing to take risks, and go out and build something of their own that results in wealth, and prefer to sit safe as someones employee, complaining about 'wealth inequality'

Many people without experience ask this same question.

It isnt relevant. They arent just producing code and pushing it, saying it works. It undergoes the same extensive testing for stability and security as the solution written by anyone else goes through. If it passes that, then its as likely to have issues further down the line as the solution written solely by the senior dev would have.

Theyre getting paid and have a job. If they dont like that deal they can go find another one elsewhere.

But its going to get increasingly difficult to justify promoting them to higher salaries if generative AI continues as it is, as the bottom line is that there will be another junior dev out there that will do the role on less.

You're so wrong, this only works if..

wrong? I'll gladly continue this 'wrong' approach if it continues to be as successful as it has over the last 6 months. Aswell as it being entertaining seeing the level of cope among 'senior' developers watching someone on 1/4th of their salary design systems better than they can

Its actually the opposite of how people think.

We hire junior devs, but not senior, and dont replace our senior devs. So our developer base is moving towards being junior weighted with less senior. The reason being a junior dev is cheaper, complains less, is more capable now through utilising generative AI, works harder to impress knowing they arent in a safe position, and we can let them go more easily with less process and less reasons needed to be given.

What if I told you that a dev group with a sensibly-limited social-club flavor is where I arguably did my best and also had my happiest memories from?

Maybe you did, and as a developer I am sure it is more fun, easier, and enjoyable to work in those places. That isnt what we offer though. We offer something very simple. The opportunity for a developer to come in, work hard, probably not enjoy themselves, produce what we ask, to the standard we ask, and in return they get paid.

My problem is that directives such as "software developers need to use tool x" is an _input_ with, at best, a questionable causal relationship to outcome y.

Total drivel. It is beyond question that the use of the tools increases the capabilities and output of every single developer in the company in whatever task they are working on, once they understand how to use them. That is why there is the directive.

It means what it says. We dont just write software. An LLM cannot do the service that the company provides because it isnt just software and digital services.

Yes, you're right I should have made an account 30 years ago, before this website existed, and gotten involved in all the discussions taking place about the use of ChatGPT and LLMs in the software development workplace

I dont hunt 'AI skeptics'. I just provide a viewpoint based on professional experience. Not one that is 'AI is bad at coding because everyone on Twitter says so"