Not true. I have used Fable for all my planning work in a reasonably large but well organsied codebase and I rarely hit a session limit. I would use all of the Fable specific usage if I accidently let it do the full implementation of the plan. Pro was perfect for me. I would then used GPT-5 / Composer 2.5 for implementation followed by a Fable check over. I will definetly see if the API usage in Cursor is enough to cover my Fable needs before upgrading.
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Plannig and review. You want the best plan and when its done you want to catch all the bugs. Implementation can be almost anything.
Of course you can do the planning and reviewing by hand but sota models do a pretty great job, especially in review (please still read the code).
PLEASE MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
I have claude, codex, cursor and kiro, all most basic teir and swap around. I like anthropic the best. I would have upgraded to Claude Max 20x by now (and dropped the others) if you would just incldue an amount of fable in the subscription. I would have done it on the first of this month if I'd know fable would be included until the 19th. However I'm not sure I want to at all as I feel you will just rug pull me or string me along in another way and constantly be threatening to change things. I have other stuff to think about, the last thing I want is my tool provider constantly changing their mind on things, making me waste mental energy on -p or fable access.
I don't really want to but it would be so much easier to just go with codex right now...
I would love a service that I could upload these chats to (anonymously) so that those developing open models can have it as training data and not just the closed model companies. My understanding is that it’s very valuable, look what cursor have managed to train. Obviously some filtering so that only chats or projects you want to share get shared would need to be in order.
Is that not worth running the benchmark on to prove or disprove this anyway? This would send a strong signal to google to get their act together and save me from wasting tokens selecting high.
Out of curiosity how are benchmark runs generally funded? It would obviously be great to test them all on all reasoning levels and in and out of their native harnesses. Maybe even in pi / opencode / cursor but I get this would get prohibitively expensive unless you have funding or free tokens.
Thanks for your efforts thus far. Looking forward to seeing more.
Im just replying to my own comment to praise the team for the latest update. They have fixed the speed issue and the text is now a sane width on my screen.
Well done and thank you.
If I was to ask for more there are a few things that Claude and Codex are doing better on. Way more integrations / skills. I wish I could use MCPs and skills here. Modern design and feel too. This design, while native, feels very outdated
I was essentially installing the web app as a PWA. Why? This allows me to set a deterministic keyboard shortcut to open gemini, in my case super + C, as if it were a native app. Downside is that it eats some ram. I haven’t benchmarked this I have no idea how heavy on ram this really is. FWIW I’m fine spending ram on this if it improves my workflow, which it does.
I've had the gemini web app in a safari embedded browser tab for 6+months its worked great as a local app. (M1 Pro base spec) I set Super + C set to open it.
First impressions of the native app: I think I will save RAM and it will be faster - Cool. Download, install, sign in - Easy. Change the keyboard shortcuts - Simple. cmd + N to open a new chat - better than cmd + shift + O in the web app.
Back to work, a few moments pass.
super + C - ... wait ... there is a noticable delay in opening the app?
Maybe try the new mini chat? - Same delay 800+ms?
Thats annoying, every other app on my mac switches instantly?
Why is this slow? The delay long enough that you break my flow and make me think spending the RAM is worth it for the old web version? Whats the point of native if its slow?
Second grip - the text layout is too wide to read comfortably. At least give me the option to put it in a more narrow layout. I use every app full screen so reading text across the full width of my screen is pretty awkward.
Anyway I'll give it a go and see if it grows on me but right now the web app feels more polished and responsive so I will likely switch back.
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Awesome work, keen to try it out tomorrow. Can I make the notifications work with Gemini CLI and Kiro CLI too?
It would be great to be able to kick of a chatbot convo to go deeper on something each time you have answered. Chat for a bit to deepen understanding and read around, then pop back out and continue to the next question when your satisfied you've understood the concept.
Agree on colours. The Electronics topic was white on yellow, completely unreadable.
Nice chrome apps. What do you use to build them? How do you find the process?
I live in one of the colourful houses in Clifton wood. We have a local WhatsApp group and one of the residents posted this a few months back: “A couple of people claim they were the first to paint Cliftonwood houses a bright colour in the 70’s, one being our ex-mayor George Ferguson. But the wonderful late Joan from Cliftonwood Cres told me that was ‘codswallop’. Also when we moved in here fifteen years ago, we were told there were five colours allowed for the houses and that was that .” Others then disputed it and said there was never a 5 colour rule and quoted Annie Scott (who was an architect) started the trend.
I’ve also heard it said that this area was popular popular with artists and the rebellious types back in the day vs the more posh types in Clifton on top of the hill. There are some photos of the harbour from back when it was a working harbour, before the houses were painted, and it looks far less appealing (https://www.instagram.com/p/CyMNzAXIOY-/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFl...). If you do end up on Instagram search for Bristol harbour to see what it’s like now.
Most of my life I was like this. I studied for exams the night before, same for coursework. I did the night owl thing. I would leave my work right until internal deadlines and rush or work late to finish.
9 months ago I started a new job. It was a relatively senior role for me. Straight away my manager kicked my ass if I didn’t get stuff done. It was fully expected that I was a productive and competent member of the team. The prospect of loosing my job was very real. There is also no working from home so there is nowhere to hide. I quickly started focusing and putting in extra effort. For a while I had to put in extra time outside work to get up to standard but now I just work productively and go home.
When I work on my side projects I make far more progress far more quickly. I feel far better about work and life in general as I don’t feel like I’m wasting my time.
My advice is to put yourself in a situation that will demand a lot from you. Make sure you can’t make excuses and that you have someone/thing to hold you legitimately accountable to a high standard. It may be hard but in the long term it’ll help you reach your potential.
Just tested out with my iPhone to Ubuntu 20.04. Works nicely with photos. Tried to sending some videos (iPhone to Linux) and some of them fail. A short 30 second video worked fine but longer 4 and 8 minute ones failed. Those longer videos may have also been stored on iCloud and not locally. Within the iOS app it doesn’t “select” the longer video files to be able to send them.
Hope this helps. Nice tool and I can see myself using this if these issues are sorted.
Yes this is the problem. Using the train is often a non-option. What’s costs £25 fuel will cost £70 for a rail ticket and often take longer if you are not going between major cities. It’s even worse if there are multiple people. I would love to commute on the train (use your time more effectively, lower CO2, less stress) but it’s just too costly as it is.