Show HN: Balancing an Elasticsearch Cluster by Shard Size

http://engineering.datarank.com/2015/07/08/balancing-elasticsearch-cluster-by-shard-size.html

by KennyCason • 11 years ago

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divideby0• 11 years ago

This seems quite cool. For very large clusters, I'd also consider looking into Optaplanner, which exposes a variety of probabilistic metaheuristics for balancing. There's a "cloud balancing" example in the documentation which is fairly close in terms of the use case: https://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/6.0.0.Beta1/optaplanne...

KennyCason• 11 years ago

Nice, that looks pretty interesting. I'll make sure the team checks that out.

_gwlb3• 11 years ago

Oh nice! That looks close to what we were trying to do with this plugin. I'm not sure it would've worked within the constraints of the Elasticsearch environment, but the additional confidence of finding a solution that optaplanner provides by using multiple algorithms to solve the bin-packing problem (NP-Hard) looks quite promising.

tobz• 11 years ago

Do you have any data on bringing new nodes online / offline? Obviously, rebalancing in general is going to be I/O-intensive if you have a ton of data, but has Tempest shown any upside/downside when it comes to scaling a cluster?

Like, Tempest helped you with your static cluster... but could it make adding a new node slower or faster?

_gwlb3• 11 years ago

We've tested for stability when adding and removing nodes, but haven't compared the time-to-balance of tempest versus the default balancer. Because an ES cluster remains fully functional (you still have access to all data) while a rebalance is in progress, we chose to optimize for resource usage rather than time-to-balance. There's not really even a good way to compare the balancers' time-to-balance, since they're both highly configurable (range_ratio and iterations in tempest's case, the 4 balance weights in ES's case) - default values probably aren't "equivalent" in terms of time-to-balance, since it's a very minor concern compared to resource usage and stability.

gt565k2• 11 years ago

You mention

"... however, that none of these balancing options are resource-aware: there is no “balance shards across nodes by the size of the shards” flag to set or knob to turn."

I was under the impression that shards are kept uniform in size as ES will try and equally spread data to all shards in an index, so that there aren't imbalances.

You can manually route data to a specific shard when reading/writing, which would cause a shard to be much larger in size and use more resources, but generally there are very few cases (0.01%) when this is a good idea.

Again, I'm not sure how the shards are so imbalanced.

"Node A will degrade faster than the rest of the cluster due to extra CPU use, memory writes, and disk read/writes."

Also, remember that you can scale reads using replicas. Writes initially only happen on primary shards, and then propagate to replicas.

Not trying to be nit-picky. I'm just not sure why the shards are so imbalanced in your example. This seems more like a hack for a poor model/architecture.

At some point you'll have to redesign your ES architecture.

aewhite• 11 years ago

I'm a Sr Dev here at Datarank in charge of our ES architecture. Maybe I can shed some light on your points.

"I was under the impression that shards are kept uniform in size as ES will try and equally spread data to all shards in an index, so that there aren't imbalances."

This is true by default and it's fine for simple document retrieval but it doesn't scale well if you want to do complex aggregations on arbitrary filters of large datasets. For that you need document clustering. In our case (and probably others), the clustering can't be done uniformally, see http://engineering.datarank.com/2015/06/30/analysis-of-hotsp....

"Writes initially only happen on primary shards, and then propagate to replicas." - also true but you still want this to be as distributed as possible. In some cases we are bulk loading millions of documents. We want the load to be equally distributed as possible while still allowing for clustering as mentioned above. Also, we want to minimize heap usage per node for GC and buffering performance.

"At some point you'll have to redesign your ES architecture." - Perhaps but this system scales to 100s nodes easily and maybe 1000s. We allow our customers to perform very complex aggregates on some pretty large datasets with 50ms response times. All other architectures we tried failed to scale well.

Clustering of comments is vital to our use case for performance. Our data is distributed log-normally. We must be able to scale quickly and easily. The default setup didn't scale well with our volume. All of these factors lead us to this solution.

gt565k2• 11 years ago

Thank you for the detailed explanation. It seems like a unique use case.

I've yet much to learn about ES :).

Glad you are releasing this as a plugin!

_gwlb3• 11 years ago

aewhite covered most points, but I'd also point out that a simple use case of a cluster with multiple indices of varying sizes (such as using ES as part of the ELK stack to store logs - a new index is created every day) will run into many of the same problems with the default balancer. Since the number of shards per index isn't configurable after index creation, shard size growth and disparity is unavoidable.

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