Alternatives to wordprocessors

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by memborg • 11 years ago

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I'm looking for a general purpose writing tool, for writing letters, documentation, jot down notes and so on in pure text, and not be dependent on a certain piece of software like Word for the writing part but it could be as simple as Notepad or as advanced as Vim.

At some point I might need these writings to be presentable to others in form of a PDF, with formatting: like headers, bold, italic, having a page header, a footer and so on.

Any pointers to where I might look to?

Frenchgeek2• 11 years ago

http://www.latex-project.org/ ?

memborg4• 11 years ago

Isn't big and clunky like docbook?

Frenchgeek2• 11 years ago

Well, the example on the site show it can be pretty simple (I never had use for it, so I never really tried it ), and formatting could be easely added by editing a classic text file...

So the machine that would convert latex to PDF doesn't have to be the one the text files are written with.

dirkt• 11 years ago

TeX (and LaTex) is pretty old, and designed to run on machines much less powerful than what we have today. Back then, I've used LaTeX on MSDOS PCs with 640 kB of memory. And the original TeX was written in 1978 for a PDP-10.

Many distributions are indeed big and clunky because you get lots of packages and fonts all in one, and there's no good way to selectively install.

Or do you mean verbosity when writing the markup? Actual text doesn't require a lot of markup, and you can make things even simpler by defining your own commands.

gizmoboy7• 11 years ago

https://www.zoho.com/docs/writer.html - Check this out?

memborg4• 11 years ago

Still an word-processor, one could have mentioned google docs too.

DanBC• 11 years ago

Abiword is a lightweight word processor. You'd probably want to use Abiword's template feature to set defaults to what you want. EG I prefer light text on dark backgrounds. I like monospaced fonts. I have all the toolbars turned off.

This allows me to do basic "text editor like" typing, but with the option to apply styling and export to PDF.

http://www.abisource.com/wiki/FaqDefaultFont

http://www.abisource.com/wiki/FAQ/Always_save_as_Word

Otherwise, any text editor you like for most of the stuff and the tools you need for the other stuff. gedit for all the texty stuff, and then import it into a WP to apply styles and export to PDF.

I guess I misunderstand your question: why don't you just use a word-processor for everything, and save as text? Why don't you just use a text editor and then import into a WP when needed?

memborg4• 11 years ago

I don't want to use a word-processor at all. But thanks for the input on abiword

informatimago• 11 years ago

emacs

http://www.danfowler.net/resources/emacs_talk/#/

memborg4• 11 years ago

And I would like it to be open source too and not a web application

mark_l_watson• 11 years ago

I use several things:

leanpub: for writing books. uses Dropbox, web services to produce books from markdown. I can edit markdon files on my phone, ipad, Chromebook, and kaptops.

Google docs: quick notes that I might need in the future; having search helps find stuff later

Microsoft OneNote - for notebooks for travel planning, research, etc.

Emacs: org mode, but it takes effort to get started

tedyoung• 11 years ago

Like others, I use whatever text editor I find most convenient and write it in Markdown-like syntax (on Windows, that's MarkdownPad). When I want to get it into PDF, I'll either use Leanpub to make it into an eBook, or I'll convert it into LaTex and use something like http://overleaf.com (wysiwyg preview of your LaTex) to improve the formatting (or do things that Markdown-like syntax doesn't handle).

usermac• 11 years ago

I use BBEdit for its text-only and RegEx and really enjoy it. I must admit, I do like MS OneNote as I can write a note and see it on all my devices.

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