More Lenovo woes: security flaws, website clerical errors, maybe layoffs

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by ulrikrasmussen • 11 years ago

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pjmlp3• 11 years ago

I miss the old IBM Thinkpad quality....

tenfingers• 11 years ago

How does the current Lenovo Thinkpad line fares? I've seen a couple of devices recently and they look solidly built with above-average quality overall. But I didn't own any recently (my last Thinkpad was from IBM), so I cannot comment about details.

pjmlp3• 11 years ago

The plastic has a lower quality feel to it compared with the old IBMs.

For example, in some areas close to the keyboard you can make it bend by applying a little pressure.

On the T440p you can somehow notice the screen matrix.

rayiner• 11 years ago

Hit and miss. The #1 problem with PC manufacturers is that each iteration of the product will regress something major. The touchpad on my T430 is shitty, but at least it doesn't randomly lose input, unlike the one in my T450s. The FHD IPS screen on the latter machine might have been acceptable in 2011. The keyboard keys on the latter machine also have a cheaper feeling plastic than on the older machine. It's still good though, the best laptop keyboard you can get.

And of course, it's chock full of crapeware.

eli2• 11 years ago

I still think they're better than most of their peers. Wirecutter's exhaustive review named the T440s the best business laptop: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-business-laptop/

2510c39011c5• 11 years ago

I agree...

IBM thinkpad not just has better quality, but also many good design ideas that were later overridden by Lenovo -- such as the original keyboard layout, as well as that you don't have to take apart the whole bottom board to swap a hard drive...

coldpie• 11 years ago

Since Lenovo is now on the shit-list, any recommendations for well-built laptops these days?

keithly• 11 years ago

This site has some good information. It's focused on used models, but it gives you a basis for comparing the product lines of Lenovo, HP, and Dell.

http://ktgee.net/guides

stronglikedan• 11 years ago

For what it's worth, I just got a Dell M3800, and couldn't be happier with it. While I do miss the trackpoint on my Thinkpad, the trackpad on the M3800 is one of the finest I've used on any laptop ever. Only second to the Macbook trackpad and Logitech T650 (which I consider equally as good as one another). Other than that, it's light, sturdy, and the 4k screen is magnificent.

Cuuugi• 11 years ago

Theres a certain irony about complaining about issues in past version of an update software.

drzaiusapelord3• 11 years ago

This isn't a Lenovo issue, its a larger Windows OEM issue. HP, Dell, and the rest are guilty of the same sins. When is Microsoft finally going to reign these guys in? I'd love an Apple-like experience of just booting up into a standard OS and not worrying about various faddish and profit seeking applications pre-installed on my machine. If MS wants to make Win10 the next XP, they need to control these OEM's.

Chinese acquisitions of US tech companies rarely works out. They just two very different business cultures. Sadly, Lenovo also bought Motorola's mobile division, so we can expect more of this treatment with the next batch of Motorola phones. The same way they ruined the thinkpad brand - they'll ruin the Moto brand.

wlesieutre• 11 years ago

You can get that with the "Signature Edition" computers available in Microsoft Stores.

But the closest MS store is an hour away from me, and normal people don't even know that they should care, let alone care enough to spend two hours driving to pick up a laptop.

Haul4ss• 11 years ago

You can also get them at microsoftstore.com.

Signature Edition PCs are a great idea. Microsoft should have been doing that all along.

allenbrunson4• 11 years ago

"control these OEM's?" it was Microsoft who created this mess. they were executing everybody's favorite business maxim, "commoditize your complements." Microsoft is the only company providing the operating system, which runs on an army of undifferentiated PCs, where the manufacturers can only compete on price. of COURSE they're reduced to shady behavior like this. they have no other way to make money, because Microsoft thinks all the profit in the entire ecosystem should be theirs.

if they try to "reign in the OEMs," then there will be no profit left at all for them. at that point, they might as well get into some other line of products altogether: netbooks, android phones, etc

drzaiusapelord3• 11 years ago

where the manufacturers can only compete on price.

I find this hard to believe and seems to be an excuse for modifications like these (this excuse is quite common in Android). Quality of components, design, battery life/capacity, screen size/dpi, brand, reputation, support quality, etc mean a lot more to Jane Computerbuyer than a slew of Lenovo shit apps she has no idea how to use and probably never will.

it was Microsoft who created this mess.

Actually it was the Department of Justice that created this mess.

lessthunk• 11 years ago

it's popular to bash Lenovo, but isn't all of Windows crappy like that?

More Lenovo woes: security flaws, website clerical errors, maybe layoffs

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