Business Travelers Want to Be Left to Their Own Devices

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/business/business-travelers-want-to-be-left-to-their-own-devices.html

by romefort • 11 years ago

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"But technology in the future will allow them to see travelers’ positions — through the GPS device on their phones — to track their movements. If a passenger is late for a flight, for instance, an airline might decide to rebook the passenger on the next flight automatically. The car rental service or taxi service would know of the delay, and the hotel might be notified of a late arrival — all seamlessly."

That's Just Creepy.

This just clinched my decision to leave my iPhone powered off unless I am specifically expecting an _important_ call, or I intend to make a call myself.

Andys• 11 years ago

Having just had a big overseas trip full of delays and unplanned hotel stays, this can't come soon enough.

Everything is computerized already anyway, may as well improve the quality of data the software has to make the decision.

dalke• 11 years ago

But the scenario doesn't even make sense. The airlines already have the ability to rebook the passenger on the next flight automatically. Why don't they do so? (They probably do for the highest level passengers.)

Granted, they don't currently know where the passenger is. But they don't need to. Right now they can send an SMS noting that the passenger hasn't arrived and asking if they want to be rebooked on the next flight ... or the one after .. or for the next day. (Though this assumes the passenger hasn't checked in online first.)

Because the airline company doesn't know the reason for the delay, or if it will be resolved by the time of the next flight. How long do they continue to rebook?

Then there's also the chance of false positives. Does "late" mean that the gate is closing and it's physically impossible for the passenger to arrive? Or is it predictive? If predictive, and I accidentally leave my phone at home, or the battery is dead, do I get bumped because the airline was unable to get accurate tracking information about me?

I once missed a flight because when I got up to the airport I realized I had left something important at home. (This was a frequent flier ticket and rebooking was free, so I didn't end up paying for a ticket change fee.) Consider a similar scenario for the future. I get to the airport parking lot, then realize that I left my baggage at home, so turn around to fetch it. Does the software assume that I'm at the airport and therefore not late? Or does it determine that I will be delayed? When does it make the assumption? Or should it assume I left my phone in the car by accident and my lift is driving away with it? How do I, as a passenger, know that I've passed some decision making boundary where I must now actively change my booking? Is it the airport parking lot? The entrance to the terminal? Security? The gate?

Same with "The car rental service or taxi service would know of the delay, and the hotel might be notified of a late arrival — all seamlessly."

The airlines already know if someone is 1) on a flight, and 2) delayed. They can offer this service right now, even if the passenger carries no electronic devices at all.

I've no qualms with the point that it's all too manual and expensive to do now. My qualm is with the hypothesis that location tracking devices are an important and useful prerequisite to enable that change.

sidcool3• 11 years ago

Won't turning location off work? Genuinely curious.

jjoe• 11 years ago

That plus completely removing the battery.

MichaelCrawford13• 11 years ago

They can still geolocate my IP address.

I was appalled a few months ago, to find that even though I disabled location services, when I looked up Portland in Google Maps, then zoomed in, there was a "stickpin" in the map that was located about twenty feet from where I was.

While I haven't had the headspace to deal with it yet, I'm getting ready to tunnel all of my web and dns through a Xen VM that I have in The Netherlands. That won't stop them from geolocating my IP, but it will lead them to believe I hang out in hash bars, as well as ice skate on canals during the winter.

eitally• 11 years ago

I've had an airline (Delta) do this, but only if both legs were on the same airline. Especially in international travel, I'd really appreciate some automation with hotels & cars.

sleepychu• 11 years ago

Why have an iPhone at all then?

MichaelCrawford13• 11 years ago

I'm writing an app.

Much of what smartphones do today, they didn't do when I took up mobile development. I can defeat Google Analytics by blackholing its server with my hosts file, but that kind of thing is hard to do with mobile analytics.

A while back I attended a talk on mobile analytics in Portland. One of the speakers displayed a photo of her company's data center, then went on to point out that their SDK was free of monetary charge to mobile developers.

It costs a lot of money to outfit and operate a data center, yet their SDK is free?

Someone has to be coughing up a lot of money for that information.

I don't want to give them mine.

tim333• 11 years ago

Guess it would be ok if you have control and can turn it on and off and choose who's tracking you. The controls on the iPhone are kind of hazy at the moment.

mediascreen• 11 years ago

I would love this!

But since airlines currently have trouble with basic things like crediting my miles correctly, sending me texts about delayed flights and letting me book flights without repeatedly logging me out; I'm not holding my breath.

These kinds of services are only useful of they work perfectly every time. A glitchy service would be worse than not having it at all.

MichaelCrawford13• 11 years ago

A good start would be to send an electronic ticket that Mom's iMac can successfully download over her Earthlink dialup.

What she gets is a few megabytes of mind-boggling HTML, CSS and Javascript, all so she can print a hardcopy with an eight-character booking number.

theklub• 11 years ago

That's a big assumption though, what if you left your phone at home or didn't update when you got a new phone.

Spooky23• 11 years ago

Seriously.

Maybe instead of going all big brother on the customer (and profiting off of my movements somehow) they should equip the employees with smartphones and apps that let them be more effective. Perhaps then we'd have less delays.

MichaelCrawford13• 11 years ago

American Airlines - IIRC - tried that, but a bunch of flights were delayed when their pilots' iPads dropped dead.

More efficient than paper flight maps, you see.

I once toured the Oakland Regional Air Traffic Control Center. Their equipment and procedures appeared appallingly primitive - the controllers passed flights to each other by passing handwritten slips of paper.

One of the controllers told us that the FAA had been working on a more-modern system for many years, but the reason they still used the paper slips was that "They work".

xur17• 11 years ago

The airlines don't even automatically rebook passengers for the next flight automatically when you don't board a flight (you scan your ticket when you board, so they know). I've missed several connecting flights, and every time I had to spend 10 minutes talking to a person - why not just automatically email me a ticket for the next available flight, along with a phone number to call if I want to change it (or let me walk up to a person)?

jcoder• 11 years ago

Two months ago I received an itinerary, directly from the airline, that made two connections before reaching the final destination. At each connection, my arrival was scheduled to land 30-60 minutes after the connecting departure. I'm not concerned at all about the airlines becoming an omnipotent big brother.

mattmanser• 11 years ago

Obvious puff piece for certify.com with no basis in reality is obvious puff piece.

w1ntermute2• 11 years ago

Not sure it's for Certify, but my first thought when I saw the title was: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

pavel_lishin• 11 years ago

I'd be happy enough if my company didn't hire a travel agency to book our flights. A $60 surcharge so they can ignore my directions and call instead of email me, to offer me a flight that goes against everything I wrote down on their form, so I can look up a better and cheaper flight on Hipmunk for them.

At least they seem to have gotten me the right hotel this time, unlike a few of my coworkers.

JshWright• 11 years ago

I just send ours the technical summary that the ITA Matrix spits outs.

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