China's graduate glut grows

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/KJ22Cb03.html

by wallflower • 17 years ago

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ilyak3• 17 years ago

"...the lack of trained and skilled workers as opposed to the surging numbers of graduates has led to the emergence of an abnormal trend where graduates are paid the same or even less than migrant laborers."

Everybody wants to talk and earn, nobody wants to actually work.

Do you see a problem here?

freakwit• 17 years ago

yes

ahlatimer4• 17 years ago

"...the communist state's..." - FTA

Why is China still referred to as a communist state? In fact, why is "communist state" even in our vernacular? It's an oxymoron. In a communist system, there is no state as everything is owned by everyone. There is no central authority; the authority is left up to the proles. The fact that people need to find employment and actually buy things, and the fact that there is still difference in comfort of living, shows that China is, in fact, not at all communist. The fact they aren't even working towards a classless system, shows that they aren't communist, even taking a loose definition of the term.

Edited for clarity. Instead of just down-modding me, I'd appreciate some (hopefully constructive) criticism as to why I'm being down-modded. My email is in my profile if you'd rather not clog up the comments.

plinkplonk• 17 years ago

"The fact that people need to find employment and actually buy things, and the fact that there is still difference in comfort of living, shows that China is, in fact, not at all communist."

the fact that the "rapture" hasn't happened yet shows that Christianity doesn't exist?

lsd5you• 17 years ago

I'm not an expert, but I think that that is an oversimplification. Communism, as a theory predicted a transitionary period before the ultimate stateless utopia. A communist state could also be defined as 'any state with the long term objective of bringing about communist utopia'.

yardie• 17 years ago

You're confusing a economic system for a political system. China is indeed communist because there is only one political party. China is also capitalist because it uses most capitalist tenets (things sort of mingle where politics and economics meet).

On the other hand the old Soviet Union was a communist political system with a command-economy. The state decided what was built, where you worked, and how much you earned.

China hasn't been a true marxist-communist since the late 70s. When Deng Xiaoping turned the economy (only the economy) towards capitalism.

ahlatimer4• 17 years ago

Except that communism is a socioeconomic and political structure, at least as envisioned by Marx. A single-party state has more in line with fascism than communism (despite them being on opposite sides of the political spectrum).

ilyak3• 17 years ago

China is the only major state left who is claiming to be communist; therefore, China now defines "communist".

ahlatimer4• 17 years ago

If I was the only person left claiming to be [insert group of people here], would that mean that being a [said group] would be defined by me? Just because there is only one thing claiming to be something doesn't mean you can leave behind actual ancestry.

I (or anyone else) can claim to be a lot of things. That doesn't make it so.

va_coder• 17 years ago

It would be more accurate to call them a one party state.

In contrast, America is a two party state.

wallflower• 17 years ago

And, as my high school Government teacher drilled into me:

America is not a democracy, it is a Republic.

tokenadult• 17 years ago

The one ruling party of China since 1949 is, of course, the Communist Party of China, so it seems fair enough to call China a "communist state," after the name of the ruling party.

patrickgzill• 17 years ago

You have a good point. Would "totalitarian state" be better?

barry-cotter• 17 years ago

No because China isn't totalitarian either. Authoritarian state with a ruling party of Marxist-Leninist political origins just doesn't have the same ring, does it?

China's graduate glut grows

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