Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

http://telegram.jaconda.im

by mironov • 11 years ago

55 33 11 years ago

telegram.jaconda.im

This looks really interesting. I'd like to see it as a more open platform and not just for telegram.

jszymborski3• 11 years ago

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand why people have seemingly abandoned vanilla XMPP. It's a great, flexible, powerful, and yes standard and open, protocol.

firedev5• 11 years ago

Jaconda.im started as XMPP-based messenger hence the name – Jabber Conference derivative. And it does work with XMPP. Nothing changed in this regard.

However after Google Talk was replaced with proprietary Hangouts protocol we had to look for other options.

Telegram fits our concept just right. Let's see what other people think. You are welcome to participate.

berdario4• 11 years ago

I assume it's because not every server (most notably: google's) support the XEP for offline messages, and having to always keep a connection to the remote server is mobile/battery-unfriendly.

All these newfangled alternatives usually rely on the Google services' push notifications api afaik.

larrysalibra• 11 years ago

XMPP is great for what it was designed for. It doesn't work well with mobile, high packet loss & high latency connections. XMPP is talkative and bandwidth intensive - bad for limited data/battery applications. It also wasn't designed for today's 1 person multiple devices reality. Most XMPP servers let you log in multiple times but messages don't sync between clients and sometimes get delivered to the client the user isnt currently in front of.

Also, sending files over XMPP has pretty much always sucked - there are a bunch of incompatible ways to do it and it's always been hit and miss depending on which client your chat partner was using, network topography, etc.

thomasfl3• 11 years ago

This look like the kind of service github might offer their users some day. When Telegram finally open sources their server, that might not be to difficult either.

michaelmior4• 11 years ago

Looks cool :) I hadn't heard of Telegram before, so I'll have to check this out.

One note is that to me "Over a 100 of integrations" reads very strangely and should be "Over a hundred integrations." Perhaps that's just my preference though.

StavrosK• 11 years ago

It's not just you, "over a one hundred of integrations" is not grammatical.

mironov5• 11 years ago

Fixed, thank you! Btw, here is how commit looks like in telegram: http://d.pr/i/an9I

higherpurpose• 11 years ago

A little something to catch-up:

http://unhandledexpression.com/2013/12/17/telegram-stand-bac...

http://www.cryptofails.com/post/70546720222/telegrams-crypta...

http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/a-264-attack-on-telegram-and...

michaelmior4• 11 years ago

Awesome. Thanks!

michaelmior4• 11 years ago

This should probably not be a Show HN. From the guidelines[0]:

Show HN is for something you've made that other people can play with. HN users can try it out, give you feedback, and ask questions in the thread.

As far as I can tell, there's not a real product here we can try yet.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

mironov5• 11 years ago

We use it internally right now and plan to invite new teams in batches. It has rough angles and we polish it before the public launch.

michaelmior4• 11 years ago

I understand. But it's not a suitable Show HN post. Show HN is designed for something that we can try out now.

thomasfl3• 11 years ago

Do you plan to integrate with e-mail? I would like to have e-mails sendt to special adresses displayed in the group chat.

mironov5• 11 years ago

Yes.

firedev5• 11 years ago

That is exactly how jaconda.im is working now, everybody in the room can send emails into the room.

thomasfl3• 11 years ago

Cool! Do you use Telegram as a backend for jaconda.im as well? If so, then it's also cool to see somebody giving Slack some competition with a more open backend server.

mehrdada• 11 years ago

"Messages are heavily encrypted". WTF does that mean? I guess that's Telegram's approach to security. Lightweight, correct, encryption does not work for them. They prefer heavyweight and incorrect.

Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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