HN top-100 sorted by karma per day

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by matthodan • 17 years ago

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bh23ha• 17 years ago

The Karma vs Days scatter plot is in absolute terms, and the karma outliers skew it so much it's hard to place anyone who's not an outlier.

johnnybgoode• 17 years ago

To clarify, it looks like this is the HN top 100 by karma, sorted by karma/day, not the top 100 posters by karma/day.

slice• 17 years ago

I'm not sure, exactly, to which discussion does that contribute.

Dilpil• 17 years ago

It might be more appropriate if the names were removed.

jrockway2• 17 years ago

Why? The raw data is linked from the top of every page:

http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders

jkuria• 17 years ago

Not sure. I'm ok being down voted by I think this is the kind of honorifics that leads to the quality of the site going down. Homogeneous opinions and comments. Look how great and special we are! Aren't we all just like each other? :)

tptacek• 17 years ago

Whoah. It's my navel! It looks beautiful in that shade of blue!

jrockway2• 17 years ago

Only 10 karma per day. I do not feel as addicted now.

It is interesting that so few people contribute so much; the community feels bigger than it is. But I think it is mostly "the regulars" and the occasional random commenter. I wonder what Reddit is like.

BTW, it's weird that Google does not have a "fork this document" feature. I don't want to request write access; I just want to play with a copy for myself. (Actually, I just want to sort things.)

jcw• 17 years ago

I think the community seems so large here because it's hard to identify people and their patterns, everyone seems so anonymous. I think this is easier on forums where people have avatars. Keeping with the minimalism of HN, maybe a small signature icon could appear next to people's names. A 10x10 pixel image with colors randomly picked upon registering. Maybe not the best approach, but I'd like to see something that would help identify people. The mind can pick out patterns of images much more quickly than text.

jacquesm8• 17 years ago

Please no.

HN has its shortcomings but lack of avatars isn't one of them.

The quality of the postings here is of a way above average level compared with that on other sites that offer a way to discuss links related to programming and surprisingly wide area to the left and right of that.

Avatars are for people that don't want to read, the usernames are more than descriptive enough, and offer everything from mechanical fishes to Daniel B Markhams, so no lack of expressivity there.

The only people that would use avatars (I think) would be those that are normally found in troll territory.

I think that HN really rewards the time you put in to it, by loading up HN with more bells and whistles the quality is not going to go up.

Less = More.

unalone2• 17 years ago

Reddit's an odd combination. Certain subreddits have notorious characters: There's S2S2S2S2S2, and MercurialMadnessMan, and RedDyeNumber4, to pick a few from memory, that appear in places like AskReddit or SuicideWatch. There are certain people notorious for certain memes, like P-Dub, and there are the famous troll accounts like 911was_an_inside_job, and there's karmanaut, who in 3 months built up more karma than anybody else on the side. There's also the redditjetblue community, which is where I think the "celebrities" are.

In communities like /r/funny, however, there are enormous masses. Some names stand out more—I wonder if my alias there does—but that's more subjective and less of a closed-off community.

jacquesm8• 17 years ago

I'm impressed that you can even remember users from such a huge community.

I've been a long time member of /., first as a lurker, then finally posting a bit and getting more involved, but I only know the names there when I see them, not recalling them by heart like you do.

On HN it's fairly easy to recognize on sight a few hundred or so, and to be able to recall several 10's at least, but it feels more like a 'hackers village' than a city.

Right now I figure about 7500 active users on HN, but, again, my measuring methods are somewhat approximate so take that with a huge lump of salt.

If it grew to 'city scale' (say 50K+ active members) that feeling would completely change, most of the posts would be from members that you would not recognize.

It has occurred to me that it is very well possible that PGs strategy is based on keeping HN manageable, and to ruthlessly prune that which does not belong in the hedge is a pretty good way of achieving that.

Over time the quality should go up, not down if you keep at it consistently. Hard to tell if that's happening though, not sure what kind of metric you'd have to come up with to discount for the growth of the site vs the quality of the comments.

That's a pretty subjective issue.

atamyrat• 17 years ago

I think karma/(comments+submissions posted) will make much more sense than karma per day.

mr_luc• 17 years ago

Which is, I believe, what searchyc.com shows you when you search on a username.

Or, rather more usefully, it shows you the average for comments and submissions separately.

...

"Usefully" in only the most abstract sense of the word ...

/me sheepishly gets back to work.

matthodan3• 17 years ago

I agree. If only I knew how many submissions people posted.

arfrank• 17 years ago

Just to note that PG is not on this list. I believe it is because he intentionally keeps himself off the leaders page. I recall reading something a while back.

jacquesm8• 17 years ago

PG would weigh in at 47.7 points per day. Not that it matters, but just in case you're curious.

jacquesm8• 17 years ago

karma = odometer. This graph really proves that.

If you would make the ranking based on quality of postings (which I think is more useful) it would look like this:

  +---------+-----------------+
  | ratio   | username        |
  +---------+-----------------+
  | 15.7917 | sivers          | 
  | 10.5652 | keyist          | 
  |  8.4536 | pg              | 
  |  8.4000 | justinweiss     | 
  |  8.3203 | lbrandy         | 
  |  8.1111 | jl              | 
  |  7.7149 | patio11         | 
  |  7.7005 | randomwalker    | 
  |  7.6548 | mdasen          | 
  |  7.5489 | old-gregg       | 
  |  7.2623 | mojombo         | 
  |  7.1552 | tjic            | 
  |  7.1143 | ironkeith       | 
  |  7.0633 | ajg1977         | 
  |  6.9412 | nixy            | 
  |  6.9394 | jcsalterego     | 
  |  6.8571 | pavs            | 
  |  6.5385 | thedob          | 
  |  6.5345 | Eliezer         | 
  |  6.5000 | malte           | 
  |  6.4933 | niyazpk         | 
  |  6.3125 | sama            | 
  |  6.2870 | michael_nielsen | 
  |  6.2804 | lionhearted     | 
  |  6.2759 | bentoner        | 
  |  6.2020 | evdawg          | 
  |  6.1639 | defunkt         | 
  |  6.0917 | martythemaniak  | 
  |  6.0598 | chaosmachine    | 
  |  6.0310 | zain            | 
  |  5.8735 | JoelSutherland  | 
  |  5.8716 | adamhowell      | 
  |  5.8644 | ryanwaggoner    | 
  |  5.8364 | endtwist        | 
  |  5.8113 | nixme           | 
  |  5.7196 | gabrielroth     | 
  |  5.6400 | cjoh            | 
  |  5.6296 | tc              | 
  |  5.5926 | curtis          | 
  |  5.5401 | anuraggoel      | 
  |  5.5313 | boundlessdreamz | 
  |  5.4784 | TomOfTTB        | 
  |  5.4626 | cperciva        | 
  |  5.4286 | andres          | 
  |  5.4000 | unfoldedorigami | 
  |  5.3889 | kn0thing        | 
  |  5.3783 | edw519          | 
  |  5.3415 | thinkzig        | 
  |  5.2716 | raganwald       | 
  |  5.2364 | paul            | 
  |  5.2208 | smanek          | 
  |  5.2105 | shimon          | 
  |  5.1569 | bokonist        | 
  |  5.1364 | brentb          | 
  |  5.1277 | bouncingsoul    | 
  |  5.0909 | mqt             | 
  |  5.0566 | jim-greer       | 
  |  5.0556 | mjtokelly       |
  |  5.0424 | pc              |
  |  5.0417 | crocus          |
  |  5.0343 | ckinnan         |
  |  5.0323 | dilanj          |
  |  5.0000 | jeeringmole     |
  |  4.9848 | abstractbill    |
  |  4.9690 | tdavis          |
  |  4.9569 | jbyers          |
  |  4.9529 | spencerfry      |
  |  4.9457 | absconditus     |
  |  4.9421 | amix            |
  |  4.9286 | ksvs            |
  |  4.9254 | luckystrike     |
  |  4.9245 | fleaflicker     |
  |  4.9167 | Mystalic        |
  |  4.9020 | kennyroo        |
  |  4.8857 | joao            |
  |  4.8658 | menloparkbum    |
  |  4.8621 | timr            |
  |  4.8571 | shalmanese      |
  |  4.8403 | marcusbooster   |
  |  4.8333 | jkkramer        |
  |  4.8188 | daeken          |
  |  4.8113 | TimothyFitz     |
  |  4.8040 | plinkplonk      |
  |  4.8000 | jefffoster      |
  |  4.7962 | acangiano       |
  |  4.7716 | sachinag        |
  |  4.7545 | halo            |
  |  4.7500 | lackbeard       |
  |  4.7491 | nir             |
  |  4.7486 | tsally          |
  |  4.7434 | shadytrees      |
  |  4.7429 | imgabe          |
  |  4.7342 | ionfish         |
  |  4.7301 | mixmax          |
  |  4.7265 | swombat         |
  |  4.7222 | wolfish         |
  |  4.7209 | kalvin          |
  |  4.6970 | alecst          |
  |  4.6875 | forsaken        |
  +---------+-----------------+

matthodan3• 17 years ago

What is the math behind the "ratio" column?

jacquesm8• 17 years ago

sum(commentpoints) / ncomments

DanielBMarkham• 17 years ago

Upvoted for pointless use of data to create a graph that involves me.

10ren• 17 years ago

I thought this was going to be the submissions of a day, sorted by karma, and the top 100 of those. i.e. HN top-100 submissions (sorted by karma) per day

I've been hoping for such a list, because it would enable me to catch a day's top stories without having to check in throughout the day. This would help reduce the time I spend on the site...

The "best - Highest voted recent links" extends over at least 8 days. It's not restricted to the last 24 hours. (It looks like the same ranking algorithm as the frontpage with less gravity (no, I'm not going to download the source just to check that).

ivankirigin5• 17 years ago

Some names of people confirmed to be idiots from their comments pop out. I wish I could just hide them.

mahmud• 17 years ago

Guilty as charged, Ivan! :-D

jfager• 17 years ago

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/55745

ivankirigin5• 17 years ago

awesome. Installed

run4yourlives3• 17 years ago

That's an interesting stance.

If a user "respected" enough to get into the top 100 is saying things that you don't want to read, there are only two real possibilities:

1. The community (or a large sub-section)is full of idiots.

2. You are the "idiot". (quotes for a reason - I'm not calling you an idiot.)

2. Can be clarified as: perhaps this is a message you need to hear/are not understanding. I always read these comments extra, in the view of bettering myself.

I find it interesting that your response is to ignore them. Why?

ivankirigin5• 17 years ago

Trolls should be ignored.

Generally, people who consistently spew inflammatory and poorly reasoned garbage rarely yield edifying conversation. I'd rather not waste my time.

swift_coder• 17 years ago

I don't see pg on the list.

tsally• 17 years ago

Isn't it obvious why?

vlad• 17 years ago

Very misleading. Does not account for point inflation over the years (when a 15 point article or comment was equivalent to 230 points now.) There is not much one can infer from simply dividing points by days registered.

Maybe we need to find out the average point total of the top 20 comments (separately, articles) for each month before calculating anything else. Would pg or the search.yc guy(s) be able to calculate these numbers?

chengmi• 17 years ago

SearchYC doesn't scrape the user pages containing the account creation date. We could generate numbers based on days since the user's first post, though.

chrischen• 17 years ago

I have 4.413, but I'm not the list!

HN top-100 sorted by karma per day

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