Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

http://blog.phusion.nl/2009/09/29/ruby-enterprise-edition-1-8-7-20090928-released/

by jherdman • 17 years ago

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davidw• 17 years ago

So is this stuff getting folded into Ruby proper? If not, why not?

shimonamit• 17 years ago

Good question. I'd like to know too.

grandalf3• 17 years ago

This may sound silly, but I think it's the language barrier.

Also, Matz has been very loyal to the core group of Ruby maintainers even after Ruby has gone beyond fad status. Matz has been reluctant to put Ruby on a distributed SCM as well.

I expect all of these issues to be resolved within the next few years...

evdawg• 17 years ago

As far as I know: these REE releases/patches are for 1.8.7, a release of Ruby that isn't quite being actively developed, only maintained. Stuff similar to this is being folded into the official Ruby interpreter, which is now at 1.9.1 (1.9.2 soon!).

The uptake of Ruby 1.9.1 has been slow, and people are staying on 1.8.7 for compatibility reasons. Thus, these patches are trying to bring better memory performance to the old but widely used 1.8.7.

jamesbritt3• 17 years ago

Swap 1.8.6 for 1.8.7 and you'd be more correct.

grandalf3• 17 years ago

It probably will eventually... there are some cultural and linguistic aspects that are slowing down the process. Ruby is also not officially on a distributed SCM yet...

ballen• 17 years ago

Also why aren't we all using or moving to Ruby 1.9, instead of sticking with 1.8?

jherdman• 17 years ago

1.87 is a transitional release designed to ease some of the pain of moving to 1.9. Some gems and libraries, also, aren't fully 1.9 compatible. I think more so than even these is that getting people to change can be fairly difficult.

jamesbritt3• 17 years ago

Folks can get an idea of the gem migration situation here:

http://isitruby19.com/

EvilTrout4• 17 years ago

I migrated my site to Ruby 1.9.1 about a month ago and it was mostly painless. It's now running up to 4x as fast for some requests!

It's finally time to start developing entirely in Ruby 1.9 guys. Trust me.

defen• 17 years ago

What does your deployment look like? Nginx/Apache in front of Thin/Mongrel?

compay• 17 years ago

I think the main reason is simply that 1.8.6 has been "good enough" for most people. It reminds me a lot of Apache 1.3 vs. Apache 2.0.

For a long while, there were also no debuggers for 1.9.1, which is a big deal for some people. Mark Moseley has done a lot of work to get them working on 1.9.1 so luckily this isn't really a concern any more.

http://github.com/mark-moseley

I made Ruby 1.9 my default Ruby using Macports (using the +nosuffix variant) a few months ago. Other than finding a few trivial bugs in my code and some other people's, it's been painless; though of course your mileage may vary.

vlod2• 17 years ago

the reason for me is that (afaik) ruby-debug doesn't work with ruby 1.9.

im soo much more productive when i can set a break point and see why my flow isn't working.

percept2• 17 years ago

Hello, you can find a port here:

http://wiki.github.com/mark-moseley/ruby-debug

percept2• 17 years ago

I did but was surprised how many others didn't (and still haven't). There were some hiccups but nothing insurmountable.

Of course I blew everything away upgrading to Snow Leopard so I'll have to replace/upgrade with 1.9 again (though I'm also considering Ruby Version Manager).

charlesju• 17 years ago

It's easier to development on proven technology than to upgrade sometimes, especially when there are tight product deadlines.

Also, running on a Mac, it is easier to use whatever Mac is using so that your code has less bugs across different dev machines.

mikebo• 17 years ago

One of the big improvements ruby enterprise edition made is to make Ruby's GC copy on write friendly. This allows you to run a lot more ruby processes per frontend in a web environmet, since you're usually ram limited.

Afaik 1.9 didn't address this.

Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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