Anonyfish – Chat Anonymously With Another Secret User

by hornbaker • 12 years ago

52 29 12 years ago

My crypto knowledge is not really up to snuff but doesn't this not use any real end-to-end crypto when it easily could? SSL, AES, and blowfish could all be MITM'd, right?

spikels2• 12 years ago

I'm not sure how much better you can do with a webapp. Either you trust them to encrypt your messages on the server or you trust them to send you JavaScript that does the encryption in the browser. Either way you need to trust the app provider. SSL should ensure it is not MITMed before it gets to their server.

phaer• 12 years ago

In this case a SSL certificate which is certified by 'GoDaddy.com, Inc.'. Not too trustworthy if you ask me.

Deestan2• 12 years ago

or you trust them to send you JavaScript that does the encryption in the browser

I don't need to give trust in that case, as I could verify the encryption myself.

brahma1337• 12 years ago

Talk to me. I'm 'CaptainBananaPants'

natch• 12 years ago

Why not add the Stanford Javascript Crypto Library to this, to address the concern mentioned by jabgrabdthrow?

https://github.com/bitwiseshiftleft/sjcl

I'm not saying that's going to plug all holes but maybe it can be one piece.

spikels2• 12 years ago

At least today you still have to trust the JavaScript the server sends you.

I have heard talk in the past about adding code signing to browsers. Combined with open-source code and a security audit this could potentially offer something approaching the security of a traditional application.

codecondo• 12 years ago

"Annoyfish" is what I read it as, it's probably not very far off.

coherentpony• 12 years ago

In what way? Something you don't like? How should it be improved?

angersock3• 12 years ago

503.

Edit:

Back as me, angersock. Message me if you're feeling like a chat now in the wee hours of the morning.

EDIT2:

Man, I really wish we could have this update in real time... :|

EDIT3:

So far, two people with racist names, one person quoting batman. I'm not impressed so far with the level of discourse.

EDIT4:

Alright, we seem to be doing better.

onuryavuz• 12 years ago

Idea : Chat anonymously with another HN user

homakov• 12 years ago

CSRF

http://homakov.github.io/#{"url":"https://anonyfish.com/api/...

also why not it snap-chat style and remove messages after 10 s?

angersock3• 12 years ago

I'd rather they fix the part where they don't sort displayed messages by time sent...it's kind of hard to follow conversations.

hooda• 12 years ago

how is it supposed to work as I don't know the username of any anonymous user :) sorry but i didn't understand this..

angersock3• 12 years ago

Check the thread for people mentioning their handles. :)

geuis• 12 years ago

UX needs work. Literally have no idea what's happening after I "log in". Description sounds like chat roulette bu the reality is being unable to talk to anyone.

officialjunk• 12 years ago

it lets you create a password with only one character. can the password can be updated?

grigio• 12 years ago

try also Geospot which is geolocalized neaby chat. http://geospot.meteor.com

boklm• 12 years ago

Messages are encrypted using AES and BLOWFISH ciphers on the way into the database.

Using a key that is stored in the same database ? How is that useful ?

IPs and logs aren't stored.

Except when they decide they want to keep logs.

slashdotaccount• 12 years ago

The site uses Google APIs. I'd rather prefer Google not knowing every time I want to chat anonymously.

thrush• 12 years ago

Made a handle: mistersanfrancisco

Honestly, don't really understand the use case here. What is the benefit that something like HN doesn't already provide? Everyone on HN knows my handle is thrush, so can comment at me, or dm me using any contact info I've provided. On anonyfish, I can't even use the service unless I have someone in mind. In fact, the only names I have to contact are the ones provided in this thread, and it's a pretty short list.

  - angersock
  - CaptainBananaPants

EDIT:

Omegle (http://www.omegle.com/) seems way better. Allows anonymity (or so it claims), can match people based on interests, and can even match people in the same university based on their .edu email address.

dorfsmay• 12 years ago

omegle with persistant usernames?

Yetanfou• 12 years ago

Another fish-name gone. For those in need of a name for their next product, I asked my corporate name generator oracle (written in bash, no less!) to cough up a few:

UnsteadyWhale WorthwhileMonkey WealthyLizard VerifiableMonkey PerkyWeasel DarlingCow Wide-eyedFrog FrighteningHippo OddMoose ReasonableWhale GrubbyDonkey

Just imagine your next website, showing nothing but a large screen-blanketing image of carefree happy coffee consumers, a pulsating 'scroll down' button and your GrubbyDonkey logo. The VC's will be chomping at the doorhandle, trust me.

jdipierro• 12 years ago

Anonymous... but you have to register? What?

arcameron• 12 years ago

If you found this headline interesting, you'll probably enjoy https://chat.echoplex.us/

Anonyfish – Chat Anonymously With Another Secret User

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