Gitter – Chat, for GitHub

by ejdyksen • 12 years ago

71 36 12 years ago

Hey, thanks for posting. Mike here from Gitter.

I know a lot of this audience are pretty bullish on IRC and so we're also busy testing an IRC bridge for Gitter. Once you've signed up, feel free to go to https://irc.gitter.im and give it a whirl.

Feel free to leave any feedback on Gitter here or get in touch with us via our chat room: https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/gitter or http://support.gitter.im

coherentpony• 12 years ago

Mike? Why did you have to change you name? He's the one who sucks!

mikexstudios• 12 years ago

This is really cool, but is there a reason why the authorization permissions requires r/w access to: Private email addresses, and SSH keys?

tvon• 12 years ago

It is apparently a limitation in the GitHub access levels:

https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200176672-Authe...

Which is unfortunate, because I'd like to try gitter but I'm not willing to mess around with my github account like that.

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Hey Mike,

We don't ever write anything to your profile. As explained in the link below, this is a standard GitHub permission.

PS your SSH keys are 100% public: https://api.github.com/users/mikexstudios/keys

Mike

Short answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200178961-Why-d...

Long answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200176672-Authe...

misterdai• 12 years ago

Any idea if GitHub will ever alter the way that works so you can avoid it giving you write access. I was all ready to give Gitter a go until I saw the permissions that would be granted. Sure you're trust worthy but us IT types can be paranoid ;-)

dereferenced• 12 years ago

You could always be hacked. It's a danger to provide those permissions. (I understand that there's not much more you can do about it.)

songgao• 12 years ago

The idea that this gives write access to my SSH keys is still scary. Not that I don't trust your service, but what if somebody attacks it and adds malicious keys?

Or does write access not include SSH keys?

imjared• 12 years ago

Pretty cool but I can't see having another chat client on top of Hipchat. Wish there was some way to bake this into Hipchat since the features look awesome. Great work!

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Thanks! We've got a few people migrating from Campfire and Hipchat to us... :)

yssrn• 12 years ago

Is there a privacy policy or ToS? I don't see one on the site.

joeblau2• 12 years ago

Could you guys add the Webpage Icons[1]?

[1] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/AppleA...

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Great request, will certainly look into it. We'll also have an iOS app out soon.

joeblau2• 12 years ago

That was going to be my original question until I actually used my reading skills.

jbranchaud• 12 years ago

It looks great, I'd love to try it, but I am not comfortable with how many permissions it requires on my Github account.

suprememoocow3• 12 years ago

Hi, this is Andrew from Gitter.

If you're not comfortable with the OAuth permissions Gitter requires, you're welcome to try it's sister product, Troupe https://trou.pe. It's got most of the same features, but with less Github integration.

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Hey,

We don't use those permissions, unfortunately as good as GitHub's API is, their scopes are very limited.

short answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200178961-Why-d...

long answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200176672-Authe...

mynameisfiber• 12 years ago

Maybe a good solution would be to request a less privileged token if the user doesn't want integration with private repos. Then, if they want to upgrade to integration with private repos they need to get a new oauth token with the relevant privileges.

I'd love to try this service out, but I also don't want to hand out oauth tokens that can read my ssh keys.

EDIT: Just read more comments and saw that my github ssh keys are completely public. I guess that makes sense since they are public keys!

rileytg• 12 years ago

Looks really nice but you guys ask for too many permissions! SSH keys?? http://cl.ly/U1pP

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Hey,

I've answered this numerous times in this thread, but I'll say it again, very loudly and very definitively: WE DO NOT WRITE TO YOUR SSH KEYS, EVER. EVER. EVER. We don't even read them.

Unfortunately, as beautiful as GitHub's API is, they've got their scopes for permissions completely wrong and we know they are working to fix this.

Short answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200178961-Why-d...

Long answer: https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200176672-Authe...

Mike

mdcatlin2• 12 years ago

I don't want to sound like a parrot here, but I'm VERY excited about the feature set of your product but I'm not going to try it with the current permissions model.

Do you have any communication channel into Github through which you can let them know that their permissions model stands to kill your business?

mdcatlin2• 12 years ago

I see your explanation in https://gitter.im/login/explain and it suggests a business solution that doesn't require me to believe the promises of someone I don't yet trust.

"In order to create a good first-time user experience that allows people to create and join chat rooms for public repositories and organisations... [the rest of the technical explanation]".

Stop doing this.

Make this feature optional. I don't even want a public chat room for my company's private repo.

MetaCosm• 12 years ago

I don't doubt your sincerity. Unfortunately, all of us have bugs, and if that bug in one step from write access to repos -- that is unacceptable.

I hope that Github is reactive enough to get permissions setup in a failsafe manner so I can give this a spin.

mariocesar• 12 years ago

Awesome :)

I just integrated with sorl-thumbnail, I don't know if it will be a fully replacement for our IRC channel, however I'm sure most of the devs will give it a try.

Gitter Room: https://gitter.im/mariocesar/sorl-thumbnail

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

Feel free to give our IRC bridge a go to. It's very new and still very much in test phase.

https://irc.gitter.im

Let us know you get along with it: https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/gitter http://support.gitter.im

Mike

namuol• 12 years ago

Reminds me a lot of Slack[1], but the gh-flavored-markdown and tighter issue and CI integration make Gitter stand out.

Any chance of BitBucket integration?

[1] (http://slack.com/)

mydigitalself11• 12 years ago

BitBucket is coming soon! Follow us on twitter for updates (@gitchat)

sunkarapk• 12 years ago

I have been using this since the beginning for my open source project https://github.com/pksunkara/alpaca. They provide very good support. And the features are awesome.

Short story, Gitter is awesome!

https://gitter.im/pksunkara/alpaca

suprememoocow3• 12 years ago

Thanks for all the brilliant support Pavan!

In fact, Gitter uses Pavan's excellent Octonode library (https://github.com/pksunkara/octonode) for all it's communications with Github.

twir• 12 years ago

Where's the privacy policy?

hartator• 12 years ago

How do this compare to HipChat? Seems interesting.

dangoor• 12 years ago

We've been testing it for Brackets:

https://gitter.im/adobe/brackets

It's a really cool service and I think one of the big considerations for us right now is that our freenode channel (#brackets) has 86 people in it as I type this. We've potentially got some inertia to overcome.

Gitter – Chat, for GitHub

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