Debian 7.3 is out

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/

by duggieawesome • 13 years ago

159 66 13 years ago

jlgaddis3• 13 years ago

Better link with more info: http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131214

rhizome3• 13 years ago

It truly confuses me that the upgrade instructions are so obfuscated, bordering on unfindable. Can someone point me to the chapter where an upgrade from 7.1 to this version is covered?

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/in...

bpeebles• 13 years ago

Upgrading from any Debian 7 upgrade should just be:

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade

juliocc• 13 years ago

Just doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade should be enough. You have to be careful, do backups and all that, but that's basically all you need to do.

null_ptr2• 13 years ago

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

There's nothing special about upgrading Debian between point releases.

jlgaddis3• 13 years ago

As others have mentioned:

    $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

In this particular case, from 7.1 to 7.3, "dist-upgrade" is not needed (you aren't upgrading from one distribution to another (e.g. from 6 to 7)).

andrewaylett• 13 years ago

If you're already on a 7.x install (codename 'wheezy') then per http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131214 it suffices to enable the updates repository (which I believe is the default) and run `apt-get upgrade`.

The release notes you linked to are for the original 7.0 release. I think that most people will pretty much ignore that there's a point release and continue to update their systems regularly -- unless you're installing a large number of systems or have particular requirements there seems little point in paying it specific attention.

2jgi7• 13 years ago

You don't actually have to do anything if you are already on Wheezy. Just update normally.

swetland2• 13 years ago

Thanks. I was puzzled that there seemed to be no 7.2 to 7.3 release notes or change lists linked from the original URL... just stuff about 7.0.

nkuttler• 13 years ago

It has already been said, but this is just a point release. If you keep your Debian system up to date (which you should) you'll only get a few new packages.

plg2• 13 years ago

Can anyone point me to a step by step for how to get debian running on a macbook air? I've googled it and tried at least 4 different approaches, to no avail. I'm talking about a macbookair3,1 (late 2010 11").

voltagex_3• 13 years ago

Where are you getting stuck?

plg2• 13 years ago

Can't boot from a USB nor from the Debian installer cd (using USB CDROM drive)

throwaway_yy2Di• 13 years ago

Try it on a VM like VirtualBox (free, OS X supported). Among the advantages, you get vastly superior hardware support, particularly with the trackpad.

Source: Running Debian Wheezy on a 2011 Air.

edit to add: Here's a quick list what running Debian on a VM gives you:

* Seamless full-screen linux with full hardware access (e.g. GPU)

* Advantage of native OS X drivers (particularly the amazing trackpad -- linux drivers crippled it in my experience)

* Instant, lag-free transition between linux/OS X -- e.g. four-finger "swipe" gesture between desktops.

* Shared linux/OS X filesystem ("shared folders")

* Zero hassle with linux wifi, custom bootloader hacks (rEFIt), etc. VirtualBox has first-class support in Debian -- everything's just an apt-get away: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox

eyko• 13 years ago

However, performance is shite. I ended up going for a native install and you can appreciate the difference. That is, if you run Gnome 3 (which is a pile of shite as well). When on other DMs, if you can call xmonad a dm, virtual box was just awesome, for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

drill_sarge2• 13 years ago

I'd recommend using Debian testing instead of stable for that. (testing is preferred in most personal use cases if you don't run in a corporate environment/server or similar)

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

I am not sure, but you may need the additional firmware files listed on that page.

stinkytaco• 13 years ago

I thought unstable was more geared toward personal use cases. Testing doesn't even get supported by the security team, that seems like a huge mistake to run as your personal workstation.

alecco• 13 years ago

Anybody knows if the kernel version was bumped?

swetland2• 13 years ago

Looks like it's still 3.2 based: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64

vacri• 13 years ago

The kernel version isn't going to change in the 'stable' flavour. You can backport it if you need newer features, or use one of the other flavours.

sherr• 13 years ago

3.11 is in Wheezy backports if wanted.

RexRollman3• 13 years ago

I recently gave Debian a try and one thing that surprised me, coming from Arch, is that the tool to install software, apt-get, can't list what software has already been installed. You have to use dkpg to get that information.

Even funnier, I found the answer for that on the Arch Wiki page on Pacmac Rosetta:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta

massysett• 13 years ago

Sort of makes sense if you consider the history behind it: dpkg installs software, not apt-get. apt-get, aptitude, etc. are higher-level dependency resolution tools that simply loop in dpkg to actually install packages. dselect is an older tool that did dependencies before apt-get came around.

RPM distros are similar, as they use higher-level tools to do dependencies (yum, zypper, etc.; there was even apt for RPM) and then RPM to actually install the packages and track them.

Admittedly though Debian's command line tools are stuck in the past in this regard, as the user shouldn't need to care about all this. Arch gets this right by putting it all into pacman.

rcthompson• 13 years ago

Debian (and Ubuntu etc.) has a tool available that unifies all the many different commands required for administrating and querying the package system. It's called "wajig". I don't believe it's installed by default, though. I rarely see it suggested, probably because whenever people complain about the complexity of the command-line tools, the answer they get is "use the GUI tools".

squeezingswirls• 13 years ago

Better use aptitude instead of apt-get.

If you want to know which packages are installed: aptitude search '~i'

That command will list all your installed packages and the automagically installed ones will be marked with A.

RexRollman3• 13 years ago

Honestly, I find Aptitude hard to use. Maybe Pacman has spoiled me.

muyuu2• 13 years ago

I don't understand what is surprising or funny about that. It's pure Unix philosophy, different commands within a coherent management system.

The opposite would be the surprising thing, this is not Windows. There are managers that do the whole thing in one single executable that calls others, even with GUIs etc, for dumb people.

SamReidHughes• 13 years ago

No it's not, it's just how things turned out. The different commands have a whole bunch of separate options, and the fact that they turned out to be split upon certain lines isn't a reflection of some "philosophy". (Also, I'm glad you find it so easy to find ways to convince yourself you're not a dumb person.)

tenfingers• 13 years ago

It's helpful to note that "aptitude" could fulfill 99% of the tasks in that "Rosetta" as well (so you could mostly use only a single tool to perform all the required tasks), though I appreciate the fact that they usually provided the lowest-level command to perform the single action.

arc_of_descent• 13 years ago

Since I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade almost regularly, I found out that my system was already running 7.3 (cat /etc/debian_version). So yes, this is not a major upgrade release just that the Debian team thought that there were enough changes and bug fixes to label this as a new release.

Debian 7.3 is out

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